Comments on: Repairing an image by cloning from another http://www.photoclubalpha.com/2008/08/01/repairing-an-image-by-cloning-from-another/ Search this site - over 170 articles on Alpha system topics! Subscribe to our magazine too! Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:11:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: AEH http://www.photoclubalpha.com/2008/08/01/repairing-an-image-by-cloning-from-another/comment-page-1/#comment-1076 AEH Mon, 04 Aug 2008 13:04:38 +0000 http://www.photoclubalpha.com/?p=848#comment-1076 You did a real nice job on that one - especially keeping some of the "aging." We often use this technique in group photos from cycling trips - use the head w/smile to replace a frown, etc. Once we cloned in a closeup of a crawling turtle resized to look the correct size and placed it on horizontal tree limb passing through the group shot. The photo was sent to about 20 participants. No one ever noticed the turtle - or, if they did, never mentioned it ;-) You did a real nice job on that one – especially keeping some of the “aging.”

We often use this technique in group photos from cycling trips – use the head w/smile to replace a frown, etc. Once we cloned in a closeup of a crawling turtle resized to look the correct size and placed it on horizontal tree limb passing through the group shot. The photo was sent to about 20 participants. No one ever noticed the turtle – or, if they did, never mentioned it ;-)

]]> By: springm http://www.photoclubalpha.com/2008/08/01/repairing-an-image-by-cloning-from-another/comment-page-1/#comment-1072 springm Fri, 01 Aug 2008 20:16:49 +0000 http://www.photoclubalpha.com/?p=848#comment-1072 Well, I really think it on one hand depends on the purpose, but on the other hands has to acknowledge the specifics of the medium, too. A landscape photographer, showing prototypes or "icons" of situations of light and media, is for sure in another position as someone depicting a certain geographic location. Both versions of your Luxor shots are in their own rights. While in a story about balloon adventures in egypt the cleaned up version would be acceptable, in a story about Luxor it would be not. Well, I really think it on one hand depends on the purpose, but on the other hands has to acknowledge the specifics of the medium, too. A landscape photographer, showing prototypes or “icons” of situations of light and media, is for sure in another position as someone depicting a certain geographic location. Both versions of your Luxor shots are in their own rights. While in a story about balloon adventures in egypt the cleaned up version would be acceptable, in a story about Luxor it would be not.

]]> By: admin http://www.photoclubalpha.com/2008/08/01/repairing-an-image-by-cloning-from-another/comment-page-1/#comment-1070 admin Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:26:39 +0000 http://www.photoclubalpha.com/?p=848#comment-1070 Agreed. But, as an example, we got some very good sunrise shots over the Nile and Luxor town with balloons in the sky: http://www.alamy.com/thumbs/6/%7B2CEE6A7D-3375-41E6-ACAA-DF46F622D83C%7D/ANBABR.jpg http://www.alamy.com/thumbs/6/%7B8FF07EB2-2827-4C63-B3E4-8DD3A53169AA%7D/ANBABW.jpg One has had some of the messy building concrete reinforcement rods tidied up. It was tempting to completely retouch the example with loads of these unfinished building columns. In the end I decided not to, but I may go back to it one day and produce a 'clean' city skyline with the mosque and balloon. David Agreed. But, as an example, we got some very good sunrise shots over the Nile and Luxor town with balloons in the sky:
http://www.alamy.com/thumbs/6/%7B2CEE6A7D-3375-41E6-ACAA-DF46F622D83C%7D/ANBABR.jpg
http://www.alamy.com/thumbs/6/%7B8FF07EB2-2827-4C63-B3E4-8DD3A53169AA%7D/ANBABW.jpg
One has had some of the messy building concrete reinforcement rods tidied up. It was tempting to completely retouch the example with loads of these unfinished building columns. In the end I decided not to, but I may go back to it one day and produce a ‘clean’ city skyline with the mosque and balloon.

David

]]> By: springm http://www.photoclubalpha.com/2008/08/01/repairing-an-image-by-cloning-from-another/comment-page-1/#comment-1069 springm Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:05:29 +0000 http://www.photoclubalpha.com/?p=848#comment-1069 "Such pictures are marked as ‘digitally altered’ for library sales purposes. Are they dishonest?" My guts feeling says that it depends on the purpose the pictures are used for. In this example it's an editorial type shot, an illustration. From my point of view this is completely o.k. But last week another photographer showed me postcard type shots of my hometown where he had increased the height of the clocktower and the mountain in the background, making the whole scenery definitely more impressive. If I would get this postcard see this as an incentive to travel there, I would be disappointed, and when the manipulation would get uncovered, I definitely would become angry. Unreflected manipulations that do change documentary style pictures - and even a postcard with a landscape scenery is more a documentation than a pure artifact - will badly affect the reputation of photography. So marking altered pictures as such is definitely a good way of handling this. “Such pictures are marked as ‘digitally altered’ for library sales purposes. Are they dishonest?” My guts feeling says that it depends on the purpose the pictures are used for. In this example it’s an editorial type shot, an illustration. From my point of view this is completely o.k.
But last week another photographer showed me postcard type shots of my hometown where he had increased the height of the clocktower and the mountain in the background, making the whole scenery definitely more impressive. If I would get this postcard see this as an incentive to travel there, I would be disappointed, and when the manipulation would get uncovered, I definitely would become angry.
Unreflected manipulations that do change documentary style pictures – and even a postcard with a landscape scenery is more a documentation than a pure artifact – will badly affect the reputation of photography. So marking altered pictures as such is definitely a good way of handling this.

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