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	<title>Comments on: Studio comparison A900, 5DMkII, D3X</title>
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		<title>By: elthamnorth</title>
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		<dc:creator>elthamnorth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 09:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent reoort! I shoot a d200 with the 17-55mm f2.8, and I have done some tests comparing the d700 and a900. I have also looked at the various 5dmkii testes including yours..

Your comment about the a900 and reflections..  I noticed this too. Some lenses seem to cut through reflections to allow light behing to come through. I found this with my Contax G1 and its Zeiss lenses, and the a900 and the 24-70mm Zeiss.

I think its very hard to decide what to do in terms of an upgrade. I did not find the new Nikon N 24-70mm f2.8 to have lower distortion than the 17-55 f2.8. But the Nikon 24-70mm f2.8 L seems to have less barrel distortion than its Nikon comptetitor.

My major concern is the 5D MKii&#039;s AF performance. Does anyone have some objective comments?

Karl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent reoort! I shoot a d200 with the 17-55mm f2.8, and I have done some tests comparing the d700 and a900. I have also looked at the various 5dmkii testes including yours..</p>
<p>Your comment about the a900 and reflections..  I noticed this too. Some lenses seem to cut through reflections to allow light behing to come through. I found this with my Contax G1 and its Zeiss lenses, and the a900 and the 24-70mm Zeiss.</p>
<p>I think its very hard to decide what to do in terms of an upgrade. I did not find the new Nikon N 24-70mm f2.8 to have lower distortion than the 17-55 f2.8. But the Nikon 24-70mm f2.8 L seems to have less barrel distortion than its Nikon comptetitor.</p>
<p>My major concern is the 5D MKii&#8217;s AF performance. Does anyone have some objective comments?</p>
<p>Karl</p>
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		<title>By: Mal65</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mal65</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 01:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice article but not as solid as the prior article with the jelly beans. I absolutely loved that one - there are no weak points there at all.
 
    In this article the viola was moved, the cameras were not all there at the same time and most important there were focus differences as you mentioned. Still you did a great job.

     I have long been fighting with front and back focus issues - even back to my SRT 102. I had issues with my a700 and sent it back and it is now prefect. I love shooting at F1.4 or 2.0 and never realized how amazingly sharp the 50m  F1.4 is until I got this camera back from Sony. But with the machinations of going thru all that, I came to realize that the indicated spot central realestate as inscribed on the finder does not match the actual area in which it works. The actual area is wider. Secondly and more important is that whatever size of the focus sensor - if there are solid objects in front of the desired object the focus mechanism will choose the closest item. The sensors focus mechanism views a solid plane in space which is parallel to the camera. In this case the strings are in front of the end of the fingerboard. And since the strings are not in the plane of the focus area, the closer end of the string would be chosen. The manufacturers program the sensor to set focus to the closest item when there are multiple items in the sensors view.

     Canon claims its spot meter is 3.5% of the frame. If you do the mathematics a 3.5% area in the center of a rectancle takes up almost 20% of its horizontal length and height (.2 x .2 = .04 or 4% of the surface area). That is way too large to be a spot meter and a serious defect in the Canon. I suppose they do that so that the mechanism can work to a lower light level. I believe the spot focus area in the Sony is the smallestof the three and that is why it focuses more accurately and consistently than the other cameras. However, I cannot find any claim for the area from either Nikon or Sony.  
     Please check my response to your &quot;Sony Alpha 900 and Nikon D3X raw file Noise comparison&quot; on this site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article but not as solid as the prior article with the jelly beans. I absolutely loved that one &#8211; there are no weak points there at all.</p>
<p>    In this article the viola was moved, the cameras were not all there at the same time and most important there were focus differences as you mentioned. Still you did a great job.</p>
<p>     I have long been fighting with front and back focus issues &#8211; even back to my SRT 102. I had issues with my a700 and sent it back and it is now prefect. I love shooting at F1.4 or 2.0 and never realized how amazingly sharp the 50m  F1.4 is until I got this camera back from Sony. But with the machinations of going thru all that, I came to realize that the indicated spot central realestate as inscribed on the finder does not match the actual area in which it works. The actual area is wider. Secondly and more important is that whatever size of the focus sensor &#8211; if there are solid objects in front of the desired object the focus mechanism will choose the closest item. The sensors focus mechanism views a solid plane in space which is parallel to the camera. In this case the strings are in front of the end of the fingerboard. And since the strings are not in the plane of the focus area, the closer end of the string would be chosen. The manufacturers program the sensor to set focus to the closest item when there are multiple items in the sensors view.</p>
<p>     Canon claims its spot meter is 3.5% of the frame. If you do the mathematics a 3.5% area in the center of a rectancle takes up almost 20% of its horizontal length and height (.2 x .2 = .04 or 4% of the surface area). That is way too large to be a spot meter and a serious defect in the Canon. I suppose they do that so that the mechanism can work to a lower light level. I believe the spot focus area in the Sony is the smallestof the three and that is why it focuses more accurately and consistently than the other cameras. However, I cannot find any claim for the area from either Nikon or Sony.<br />
     Please check my response to your &#8220;Sony Alpha 900 and Nikon D3X raw file Noise comparison&#8221; on this site.</p>
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		<title>By: FramerDave</title>
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		<dc:creator>FramerDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 07:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is nice to see comparison with a level playing field but I would only go as far as providing the exact test conditions. As to the cameras and lenses being used I believe in the &quot;putting your best foot forward&quot; approach. What does fairness got to do with able to achieve better and higher if it is available to you? Why can&#039;t each company &quot;stack the cards&quot; so to speak by bringing out its top gun? Granted the 100mm macro might be the sharpest lense for this situation but this is not a golf game with handicap. I am all for &quot;let&#039;s see what these babies can do.&quot; Trying to be fair would only incise fans of each club. If you have send your best athlete to the olympic you can no longer cry foul.
If at all, this test is in favor of the Nikon because nobody takes the cost into serious consideration. With that tone, aren&#039;t we already saying we are really only interested in the results? Why stop there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is nice to see comparison with a level playing field but I would only go as far as providing the exact test conditions. As to the cameras and lenses being used I believe in the &#8220;putting your best foot forward&#8221; approach. What does fairness got to do with able to achieve better and higher if it is available to you? Why can&#8217;t each company &#8220;stack the cards&#8221; so to speak by bringing out its top gun? Granted the 100mm macro might be the sharpest lense for this situation but this is not a golf game with handicap. I am all for &#8220;let&#8217;s see what these babies can do.&#8221; Trying to be fair would only incise fans of each club. If you have send your best athlete to the olympic you can no longer cry foul.<br />
If at all, this test is in favor of the Nikon because nobody takes the cost into serious consideration. With that tone, aren&#8217;t we already saying we are really only interested in the results? Why stop there?</p>
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		<title>By: bakubo</title>
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		<dc:creator>bakubo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder, does the DNG converter work with D3x files yet?  If it does then you could, for now, use that so that you could work with ACR 5.2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder, does the DNG converter work with D3x files yet?  If it does then you could, for now, use that so that you could work with ACR 5.2.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thingomy - you don&#039;t work with studio flash, apparently? ISO 100 is essential for studio flash work, and ISO 50 (in the extended range of the Nikon) even more so. Bear in mind that these are fairly small 500Ws semi-pro flash units with relatively inefficient 60cm softboxes, and need to be at MINIMUM power to even allow f/11 as a working aperture at ISO 100. After using the A900 since its launch, I am increasingly using ISO 100 because of improvements in red channel noise meaning sky tones are less noisy; initially I stuck to ISO 200 for the reasons you consider desirable.

The alternative solution would be to have shot using the flash power to bracket the exposure, it can be incremented in 1/10th stop steps globally from the Skyport controller, but in this case only increased not decreased. I did make tests at other apertures between f22 and f8 and determined that f11 gave the best balance between sharpness, depth of field, and diffraction losses.

The only negative bias against the Sony present in this test is the use of IDC2 to convert a raw file which had 0 sharpness set in-camera. IDC2 translated this as &#039;normal&#039; sharpneing and applies a fairly coarse USM-type sharpening, which shows in the lines down the instrument strings and the black haloes round the grains of rosin. Out of choice I would have used ACR 5.2 to convert the Sony file, because the result is far more detailed at pixel level, but this would be unfair to the Nikon as ACR 5.2 doesn&#039;t handle DX3 files yet.

Everything is a compromise when absolutely identical software and optics can not be obtained.

The Canon test can not be repeated because the Canon has gone back home. However, Nikon is shipping me a 105mm VR Nikkor macro today, and it should be easy enough to set up the viola again and replicate the flash powers (2.3 backlight, 4.7 sidelight) and camera position. Sigma is sending me two 28-70mm f2.8 lenses to compare the A900 and D3X with supposedly identical glass.

What&#039;s interesting about reactions to this test elsewhere is that each brand&#039;s users consider it unfair to their own brand - which says more about brand loyalty than about the results!

David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thingomy &#8211; you don&#8217;t work with studio flash, apparently? ISO 100 is essential for studio flash work, and ISO 50 (in the extended range of the Nikon) even more so. Bear in mind that these are fairly small 500Ws semi-pro flash units with relatively inefficient 60cm softboxes, and need to be at MINIMUM power to even allow f/11 as a working aperture at ISO 100. After using the A900 since its launch, I am increasingly using ISO 100 because of improvements in red channel noise meaning sky tones are less noisy; initially I stuck to ISO 200 for the reasons you consider desirable.</p>
<p>The alternative solution would be to have shot using the flash power to bracket the exposure, it can be incremented in 1/10th stop steps globally from the Skyport controller, but in this case only increased not decreased. I did make tests at other apertures between f22 and f8 and determined that f11 gave the best balance between sharpness, depth of field, and diffraction losses.</p>
<p>The only negative bias against the Sony present in this test is the use of IDC2 to convert a raw file which had 0 sharpness set in-camera. IDC2 translated this as &#8216;normal&#8217; sharpneing and applies a fairly coarse USM-type sharpening, which shows in the lines down the instrument strings and the black haloes round the grains of rosin. Out of choice I would have used ACR 5.2 to convert the Sony file, because the result is far more detailed at pixel level, but this would be unfair to the Nikon as ACR 5.2 doesn&#8217;t handle DX3 files yet.</p>
<p>Everything is a compromise when absolutely identical software and optics can not be obtained.</p>
<p>The Canon test can not be repeated because the Canon has gone back home. However, Nikon is shipping me a 105mm VR Nikkor macro today, and it should be easy enough to set up the viola again and replicate the flash powers (2.3 backlight, 4.7 sidelight) and camera position. Sigma is sending me two 28-70mm f2.8 lenses to compare the A900 and D3X with supposedly identical glass.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s interesting about reactions to this test elsewhere is that each brand&#8217;s users consider it unfair to their own brand &#8211; which says more about brand loyalty than about the results!</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: Thingomy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thingomy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 03:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ISO 100 is in the extended range of the A900, right? It&#039;s native ISO is 200, if it&#039;s anything like the A700, the DR will be about 2/3 of a stop below what it should be, among other quality issues caused by this.

You are using old film optimised lenses on the Alpha (for understood reasons of practicality). 

Exposure was calibrated off the Canon, over exposure in the case of both the other 2 put them at a significant disadvantage.

As a result of the above, this test extremely biased against the A900 (and to some extent the Nikon); I would like to say that I&#039;m surprised to find 3 such errors in an article this short, but I&#039;m not. It&#039;s widely known that there is a great deal of prejudice in the media against Sony in the DSLR field (often due to brand loyalty/bigotry and/or volatile advertising revenue streams from the big 2: in the broadest sense corruption). I would have thought that a site named PhotoclubAlpha would be above this and would be fair, I can only assume/hope in this case it&#039;s because of sloppy reporting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ISO 100 is in the extended range of the A900, right? It&#8217;s native ISO is 200, if it&#8217;s anything like the A700, the DR will be about 2/3 of a stop below what it should be, among other quality issues caused by this.</p>
<p>You are using old film optimised lenses on the Alpha (for understood reasons of practicality). </p>
<p>Exposure was calibrated off the Canon, over exposure in the case of both the other 2 put them at a significant disadvantage.</p>
<p>As a result of the above, this test extremely biased against the A900 (and to some extent the Nikon); I would like to say that I&#8217;m surprised to find 3 such errors in an article this short, but I&#8217;m not. It&#8217;s widely known that there is a great deal of prejudice in the media against Sony in the DSLR field (often due to brand loyalty/bigotry and/or volatile advertising revenue streams from the big 2: in the broadest sense corruption). I would have thought that a site named PhotoclubAlpha would be above this and would be fair, I can only assume/hope in this case it&#8217;s because of sloppy reporting.</p>
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		<title>By: alphaomega</title>
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		<dc:creator>alphaomega</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another exellent article with real life comparisons. Interesting the conclusion is that all three will do the job to A2 printing. I am not really surprised at that considering Sony has fabricated the D3X sensor and all three companies are very capable camera developers.
So the scene is set for a real battle between the three DSLR giants.
As a personal view I can imagine that all Canon glass owners will go for the 5DII, whereas all Sony owners of Sony/Minolta glass will happily embrace the A900. DK has just pointed out that so much of the old Minolta glass will do fine on the A900.
The interesting part will be Nikon glass owners needing or wanting 24 Mp FF. Some have Canon glass already. It is interesting to note on the Nikon D3/D700 DPR forum quite a few 1D users have switched to D3/D700 but kept their Canon lenses. They may go back to Canon and purchase 5DII if they need 21 Mp and has in the past considered the 1DsIII too expensive and spec&#039;ed beyond their requirements. Other Nikon users needing 24 Mp FF have purchased the A900 and Zeiss glass already. So the remaining Nikon owners not needing D3X prof. spec. but wanting 24 Mp have a choice. Buy the D3X and fork out big money, go to Canon or buy the A900 and Zeiss/G glass for the same money as a D3X body only. Then there is the residue without a current investment in suitable glass. The majority will probably go for the Canon 5DII as the price difference compared with A900 is not too large. Interesting times ahead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another exellent article with real life comparisons. Interesting the conclusion is that all three will do the job to A2 printing. I am not really surprised at that considering Sony has fabricated the D3X sensor and all three companies are very capable camera developers.<br />
So the scene is set for a real battle between the three DSLR giants.<br />
As a personal view I can imagine that all Canon glass owners will go for the 5DII, whereas all Sony owners of Sony/Minolta glass will happily embrace the A900. DK has just pointed out that so much of the old Minolta glass will do fine on the A900.<br />
The interesting part will be Nikon glass owners needing or wanting 24 Mp FF. Some have Canon glass already. It is interesting to note on the Nikon D3/D700 DPR forum quite a few 1D users have switched to D3/D700 but kept their Canon lenses. They may go back to Canon and purchase 5DII if they need 21 Mp and has in the past considered the 1DsIII too expensive and spec&#8217;ed beyond their requirements. Other Nikon users needing 24 Mp FF have purchased the A900 and Zeiss glass already. So the remaining Nikon owners not needing D3X prof. spec. but wanting 24 Mp have a choice. Buy the D3X and fork out big money, go to Canon or buy the A900 and Zeiss/G glass for the same money as a D3X body only. Then there is the residue without a current investment in suitable glass. The majority will probably go for the Canon 5DII as the price difference compared with A900 is not too large. Interesting times ahead.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr.Harout</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr.Harout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article.</p>
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		<title>By: alexramos</title>
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		<dc:creator>alexramos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 02:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dave...

Will you show us some examples to high ISO??

Good review...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dave&#8230;</p>
<p>Will you show us some examples to high ISO??</p>
<p>Good review&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: planetMitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>planetMitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 23:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent report David! Wanted to let you know that we&#039;ve added it to the 5d wiki at http://planet5d.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent report David! Wanted to let you know that we&#8217;ve added it to the 5d wiki at <a href="http://planet5d.com" rel="nofollow">http://planet5d.com</a>.</p>
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