Sony vs Nikon Translucent tech

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Sony vs Nikon Translucent tech

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Just came across a new rumor from Nikon camp that Nikon patents translucent technology. Pics are in sonyalpharumor site.
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/will-nik ... /#comments

Now in this diagram, when mirror is down, how does the AF sensors get light. If light is partially fed to OVF. Can anyone explain please. i thought Translucent and OVF cannot coexist as the mirror feeds the AF sensors all the time.

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Re: Sony vs Nikon Translucent tech

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I guess the same has a normal SLR, the only thing this new patent shows is that, when mirror is down , a small amount of light is passed through to the sensor, than the light is "increased" via software/gain on the sensor . I guess this would mean when the mirror is down and you want to take a image/video the sensor will have a reduced ISO range to when the mirror is up. i.e when taking a ISO100 image with the mirror down the sensor might be set to ISO800 to compensate for the lack of light, so you might find with the mirror down down max ISO might be iso1600 .

what I would like to see Sony do, is make use of their SLT design, since they have a fixed mirror covering the entire APS-C sensor, why not have a AF sensor that has sensor points covering the whole frame.

With the Can 7D, the light for the metering system comes from light leaving the OVF prism before it hits your eye. what would be good would be if you could also set up the AF sensors the same way. This way you could have OVF and fixed mirror at the same time?
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My only guess here is that Nikon's translucent mirror is for video mode only, with the shutter moving out of the way for still photography.
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I would say from the Nikon diagram and features that this system relies on CDAF from the sensor, not phase detection, and otherwise behaves much like a Canon Pellix. I don't actually see why or how it could be patented.

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David Kilpatrick wrote: I don't actually see why or how it could be patented.

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David Kilpatrick wrote:I would say from the Nikon diagram and features that this system relies on CDAF from the sensor, not phase detection, and otherwise behaves much like a Canon Pellix. I don't actually see why or how it could be patented.

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I agree with you. I couldn't find a reason to keep the mirror in the light path while doing CDAF. It defeats all purposes, dim OVF and less light hitting sensor.

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David Kilpatrick wrote:I would say from the Nikon diagram and features that this system relies on CDAF from the sensor, not phase detection, and otherwise behaves much like a Canon Pellix. I don't actually see why or how it could be patented.

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I agree with you. I couldn't find a reason to keep the mirror in the light path while doing CDAF. It defeats all purposes, dim OVF and less light hitting sensor.

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