Megapixel race still on

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Re: Megapixel race still on

Unread postby Dusty » Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:12 pm

Greg Beetham wrote:No I don’t think I have seen any CAD simulation printouts, I used to always have a CAD program on the system for things like having to juggle the best way of cutting a sheet of ‘something’ up into a number of smaller pieces, to reduce the potential wastage had I cut it up differently.
But the printouts I did do always seemed to be of first class quality, with CAD I do believe you really need an A3 printer, but the program will happily print the same thing on two A4 sheets so you can glue them together. I remember I did detailed drawings of various dinosaurs once to make archery targets with a difference, the kill and wound zones matching to the IFAA standards, I think from memory the T-Rex target printed out on 24 A4 pages which had to be carefully cut, lined up and glued onto a cardboard backing.
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Are we really sure where the kill zones are on the T-Rex? I have a hunting trip planned with Time Travelers Inc. to the Cretaceous Period and was really hoping to bag one, but you know how nasty they can be if you don't put them down on the first shot! :lol:

I don't think I'll go for the archery tag, I want really BIG gun for T-Rex! :D

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Re: Megapixel race still on

Unread postby Greg Beetham » Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:22 pm

Yeah Dusty I see your point about the kill and wound zones, I looked at most of the existing Group 1 animal IFAA targets (Group 1’s are shot at maximum distance) and took my que from them and I think I did a reasonably good job in the end with all of the group sizes, (4 x Group 1’s, 4 x Group 2’s, and the Group 3’s and 4’s I forget how many there is exactly in an IFAA animal course). It is basically a fun round (even though the scores matter), so there is always a bit of poetic licence with the targets, I mean who is going to fire an arrow at a Kodiak bear for instance, :shock: certainly not me that’s for sure, somewhere from 30-06 through to .458W for me if I had to shoot one to stop from being eaten, .375H&H sounds about right.
But when it comes to something like a REAL T-Rex take an Abrams M1A1 MBT along as a backstop or somewhere to hide I think, if you want to give the cretaceous critters a sporting chance maybe the Barrett light 50 could be one to consider. The T-Rex had belly armour under the scales so you need something that’s going to penetrate through that heavy duty tackle, I think full patch military projectiles for sure, no hollow points, maybe even AP shot. Hmmm a T-Rex head on the living room wall complete with 6 or 8 inch dental ware…there’s something to think about. :mrgreen:
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Re: Megapixel race still on

Unread postby UrsaMajor » Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:31 pm

Greg Beetham wrote:It is basically a fun round (even though the scores matter), so there is always a bit of poetic licence with the targets, I mean who is going to fire an arrow at a Kodiak bear for instance, :shock: certainly not me that’s for sure, somewhere from 30-06 through to .458W for me if I had to shoot one to stop from being eaten, .375H&H sounds about right.
There ARE people who will do that kind of hunting with a bow.

For example, back in the 1950s, Fred Bear (founder of Bear Archery), successfully hunted all of the major big-game species in the world with a bow. In addition to Kodiak and Grizzly Bear, he took down Bengal Tiger, African Lion, African Elephant, and Cape Buffalo with a bow - plus a number of other rather dangerous creatures.

However, I doubt that even Fred would have gone after T-Rex with a bow . . .

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Re: Megapixel race still on

Unread postby Dusty » Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:52 am

UrsaMajor wrote:
Greg Beetham wrote:It is basically a fun round (even though the scores matter), so there is always a bit of poetic licence with the targets, I mean who is going to fire an arrow at a Kodiak bear for instance, :shock: certainly not me that’s for sure, somewhere from 30-06 through to .458W for me if I had to shoot one to stop from being eaten, .375H&H sounds about right.
There ARE people who will do that kind of hunting with a bow.

For example, back in the 1950s, Fred Bear (founder of Bear Archery), successfully hunted all of the major big-game species in the world with a bow. In addition to Kodiak and Grizzly Bear, he took down Bengal Tiger, African Lion, African Elephant, and Cape Buffalo with a bow - plus a number of other rather dangerous creatures.

However, I doubt that even Fred would have gone after T-Rex with a bow . . .

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Yes. The Nuge (Ted Nugent, for those of you who are not fans) even wrote a song about him. Ted's a big bow hunter himself.

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Unread postby Greg Beetham » Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:36 am

I knew/heard about Fred Bear (I don’t think I remember Ted Nugent) but I for one still wouldn’t go out and fire an arrow at big game….on purpose, too many things can go wrong, the most obvious one is, you get killed. :shock:
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Re: Megapixel race still on

Unread postby bfitzgerald » Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:17 am

Nikon rumours have more information on the D3200

24 MP sensor
11 AF points
4 fps
ISO range: 100-6400, with hi-ISO of 12800
Improved video functionality
The Nikon D3200 will have some kind of a Wi-Fi connection that is supposed to offer few very interesting new features
Announcement in April, 2012

I think the mp game is still very much on, but can you imagine how many entry shooters will be able to use those 24mp it's going to be a bit of a shocker for them

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Re: Megapixel race still on

Unread postby Greg Beetham » Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:52 pm

The phone network is the new 'connect' with pictures, an entire alternative internet outside the existing one, cameras aren't connected with that system and are in danger of dwindling because of it, actually I think it will be a massacre in no time (for P&Ss’ especially) if cameras don't get connected to the phone network in some fashion soon (telecoms will rub their hands together, more bandwidth they can charge for). We may witness the death of the P&S as we know it in our lifetime. Maybe the camera should have some kind of port/cable to connect too the phone because if the camera had its own network id and independent access then you would probably need to pay for another connection…or maybe it might not be classed as a phone and the connection could be lot cheaper than an actual phone who knows? But some camera manufacturers have seen the writing on the wall for sure I think.
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Ps there is already a phone cam with 40MP's on a tiny sensor (it does binning so the end pic is only 5-8MP) so cameras are a long way behind in the MP race.

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Re: Megapixel race still on

Unread postby Heidfirst » Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:11 pm

Greg Beetham wrote:Ps there is already a phone cam with 40MP's on a tiny sensor (it does binning so the end pic is only 5-8MP) so cameras are a long way behind in the MP race.

it's about 5x the size of your average phone sensor, almost Nikon CX size.

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Re: Megapixel race still on

Unread postby bfitzgerald » Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:55 pm

I can see the complaints now with these new 24mp cams esp entry ones
"my shots are not in focus"
"my photos are not sharp"
"I need a new hard drive as my 2TB one is full up"
"My computer is too slow processing raw files"

It's a consumer game and a well planned one I will give them that

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Re: Megapixel race still on

Unread postby Philip » Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:41 pm

So SAR are predicting a 100mp Sony camera by early 2013 http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/ :o How many fast 32gb cards do you have in your camera bag? :wink:

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Re: Megapixel race still on

Unread postby bossel » Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:01 pm

Aren't we April 1st today :roll:

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Re: Megapixel race still on

Unread postby Philip » Mon Apr 02, 2012 7:48 am

We sure were. :lol:

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Re: Megapixel race still on

Unread postby Dusty » Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:06 pm

bfitzgerald wrote:http://www.canonrumors.com/2011/12/canon-eos-rebel-t4i-cr2/

There are also rumours about 24mp entry Nikon's turning up soon as well

Questions are:

1: Who's complaining 24mp isn't enough? (I'd love to hear that)
2: When is it going to stop?

No doubt someone will come out with "more pixels" and beat 24mp.
But I think we've reached the point of "adding more" adds little

I wish I could find that link to a lecturer who's basically said we're hitting a wall and adding more resolution won't have any real advantages for the end user.


Sorry, Barry, but the MP race is now over. According to this article: http://www.scienceworldreport.com/articles/2916/20120425/worlds-largest-digital-camera-project-passes-critical.htm, it looks like we are now in the GigaPixel Race.!

3.2GP might just be enough for me!

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Re: Megapixel race still on

Unread postby bfitzgerald » Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:57 pm

Another entry DSLR with 24mp D5200
http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/d5200/index.htm

Of course it's still the same flash crippled camera with a tiny VF it always was and the £800 price is a bit shocking too.
Nikon are mastering marketing over substance..where next 24mp to 36mp on APS-C?

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Re: Megapixel race still on

Unread postby David Kilpatrick » Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:20 pm

Richard went to the Nikon conference yesterday. He wasn't over-excited, everyone thought the 5200 was coming, and they produced exactly what was predicted. No phase detect AF.

I've been doing comparative tests on the D600 and A99 today. There's no doubt the Nikon high ISO is superior, combined with typically more generous exposure - anything between 1/3rd and 2/3rds of a stop, depending on the ISO setting. The A99 in turn is more generous than the A77, which typically underexposes by 1/3rd to 2/3rd stops. The difference between D600 and A77 is quite often one full stop on a simple subject. The Nikon does have an exposure global fine tune setting, and I'm going to set a permanent minus 0.3EV on the camera we have. If the A77 had it, I should setting a permanent +0.3. I'm happy with the A99 but it certainly doesn't overexpose in many conditions.

If the 5200 is similarly ahead of the A77/NEX-7, as the D600 is ahead of the A99, it will be attractive for tele wildlife, safari, concert gigs etc. It should be fully useful at 3200. So not an uninteresting camera.

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