Cropping help

[Javelin]

I have a photo that was selected for a memorial wall. The requirement is that it be cropped to fit an 8x10 frame (wish that standard would change really) anyway I can't figure out if I can crop this without it loosing something. How would it be if I didn't crop it and just had white or maybe a coloured border wide on the sides and narrow on top and bottom? or do you all think it could survive a crop ?

This is the picture, unedited. the version i'm using will have a little more contrast in the foreground elements.

[KevinBarrett]

I just tried a lot of different crops and I can't make it work without liberally changing the work. All my solutions reduce the file size too significantly or involve cloning.

[pakodominguez]

rule of thirds always work...
and a little bit of blacks too

[Javelin]

Thats kinda what I came away with too but I can't decide if thats the best option or not. you guys are doiing the printing of all these at adoramapix too

[pakodominguez]

Thats kinda what I came away with too but I can't decide if thats the best option or not. you guys are doiing the printing of all these at adoramapix too

If you don't want to crop, you can print it "full frame" with a white border filling the rest of the canavas...

[Javelin]

how about this?

[pakodominguez]

If you send your image for rinting like that, it will be hard to color/density/contrast correct it because that will change the border's color. Fix first the photograph (your pick needs a little bit of caracter), then add the border.

Regards

[Javelin]

oh yes! absolutely. I'm just playing with the jpg I got from the unedited file to get the crop/border or whatever right. I think white might be ok but the frame would have to be dark and I don't know what the frame looks like. You think the coloured border will pull the color correction process in a diferent direction? does it try to average everthing across the whole picture??

[pakodominguez]

You think the coloured border will pull the color correction process in a diferent direction? does it try to average everthing across the whole picture??

We do manually correct every single image unless you order no corrections. In other hand, we usaually don't correct images with custom borders because the corrections affect the border too.

Imagine a photographs with a cold blueish cast and white or gray borders: If we correct the image in order to compensate the cold cast, the border will became yellow (unless we have to take out some density and/or add contrast)

Send me a PM with the order # when you place your order.

Regards

[Dr. Harout]

I prefer the slightly cropped version of Pako.

[Dusty]

I cropped it with just a little more foreground than Pako did, but it's hard to balance the foreground and distance at that crop ratio. Perhaps you can talk them into 8x12?

Dusty

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[Javelin]

it's for a memorial an I think the liked the sombre tone of this image. I notice thay passed up on some excellent but more vibrant images. I'll post another go later this evening. Gotta finish some work before I get too tired

[Javelin]

Dusty I wish I could or supply them with my own frame but the frames already exist and they are just putting the pics in. heres the last thing.

Pako do you think if the border was just white it would affect the colour corrections ?

[pakodominguez]

The white border itself doesn't affect the color correction, but if color correction is needed, the white border risk to be invaded by a color cast.
In this case, I think the image is a little blue/magenta, so I'll add a point of yellow, so the white border might suffer of yellow cast (gut not really, because I'll probably take out a little bit of density too, so that will clean up the whites)
A different image, with a strongest need for color correction, will be much harder to improve and, in those cases, we just leave the image untouched.

Regards

[Javelin]

Thanks Pako. I'll send them the image in this form then. I thinkit's the best compromise