ValeryD wrote:Yeah ... Sounds like the forum is really dying, already a few messages about funeral ... It seems that people are still the same, which is so sad.
Especially with regard to the use of ideas. So there are a lot of ideas in Internet spaces.
Some people just stay around to read posts, maybe even 'steal' some ideas and rewrite them some place else to get some sort of attention for themselves, probably in exchange for some money too ! ... The whole idea of contributing suddenly becomes a means of 'being abused/exploited' by some who are too lazy to provide ideas and research for themselves. There always are people like that and apparently always will be. There has to be a way to protect our intellectual content and time when contributing to forums !
Do not write so generalize. Slightly touches. Especially the fact that I personally work with photography, and yet I find time to share something or just read, etc. Why write like this? Even with my English, which is the third language, it offends ...
After such messages, there really is no desire to do something here.
Hi ValeryD;
Please do not be offended and I mean this. I definitely did not mean to include the contributors of this forum, which you're a very prolific contributor of among many others nor did I write it from a point of view where I see myself as prominent figure of influence.
I was coming from a personal experience where a photo of mine was used by an online news site without seeking my consent/approval. They could have easily messaged me through a PM when they saw the photo on PhotoClubAlpha forum but they didn't. I found my photo published online with their own caption and found out much later and had to contact them to notify that the photo belonged to me. These online news sites publish photos and articles to earn money by drawing the attention of the viewer. It's a business for them and they're in it for revenues. I believe that they owed me an explanation and notification. When learning the purpose of their usage, I gave consent and provided more photos for them to make a better coverage of the news. It is a resolved situation but as the owner of the photo, I believe I at least deserve the courtesy of being notified. A peaceful method always works...
My comments are results of such experiences of abuse....anyone who reads and learns from the posts on this forum are welcome and lucky to have access to a wealth of information provided by our experienced contributors who spend time to build this wealth with good intentions. I only expect that those that not just read but also use these posts or photos without consent also gave it the time and thought of the courtesy to get the permission. This forum is no secret community and sending a member a short message doesn't take long to ask their view on the usage of material. Common courtesy rules apply to our online materials just as to our personal belongings in the physical world.
Don't we react when we find that our camera body or something less valuable is misplaced or stolen or temporarily is in the hands of someone that we don't know? I believe we all react in the real world..
I would have expected some thoughtful, careful consideration before they used my photo which apparently they never intended to provide me with.
This forum is full of good people who take pride in their work and contributions which they deserve at least some common courtesy for.
Hopefully, dear ValeryD, my views are better explained with this post.
I don't want abuse for anyone especially when they are sharing so much of their hard work, putting in the time, mentality and the physical work to make all this wealth possible.
Just a little courtesy and goodwill would solve so much in similar situations. : )
If you still have doubts as to my real intentions, don't hesitate to share, please. When we have such good contributors as yourself, this forum can hardly die nor there will be any funerals. : ) But the owner of the website and the forum, David Kilpatrick holds the rights, and therefore the future is in his decision-making.
Thank you for sharing your perception,
Yildiz