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Re: New Sony lenses

Unread postby PhotoTraveler » Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:41 am

I think the 28-75 has been one of the most satisfying lenses I have owned. Maybe only the 100 macro make me happier.

But I will say, I think it has moods. Some days it hasn't done much for me, but sometimes, it just gets on a roll and nails it. It could just be I hit the right FL, aperture for the moment. But it's definitely worked for me.

My plan has been if I stay A mount, to get the 4/24-105 as my primary, and keep the 28-75 around when needed, since it might be smaller/lighter than a 4/24-105G, and it has a stop more speed. When I had it and the minolta 24-105, I was always torn, I liked having more range, but the 24-105 wasn't optically great, and the dust problems and rumbly build caused it to go.

This will be a good addition, it's just years too late. They should have had it while waiting for the ZA. And for this much waiting, I would have wanted to see some of the user aspects improved.

I also wonder if this opens the door to the 2.8/17-50 being imported.

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Re: New Sony lenses

Unread postby alexramos7 » Wed Mar 04, 2009 5:28 am

Here can be the ring motor?

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Re: New Sony lenses

Unread postby FramerDave » Wed Mar 04, 2009 6:19 am

I think we are trying to read too much from these "teaser" mock up lenses. The guy is simply trying to tell us the future direction. Heavy emphasis on DT lenses and the G series DT lenses with SSM (read: high quality) will grow (roughly 2:1 compare to FF). A bone to throw to the FF fans: long teles are coming and they will be silver. Not a word about Zeiss=G is the word from now on.
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Re: New Sony lenses

Unread postby bossel » Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:14 am

I have the KM28-75 and it's one of my "workhorses" (if I can say this as a hobbyist). It's not a loved lens, it's just too long at 28mm and too short with 75mm. It just doesn't have the magic of the older Minolta lenses. But for inside shots, it gets the job done. I don't hesitate to shoot it wide open if light is scarce. For APS-C, if it where a 24-75/2.8, it would be perfect. For the A900 it will be like a 18-50 on the A700, and that's a focal length that's quite popular, in the form of Sigma & Tamron 18-50/2.8.

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Re: New Sony lenses

Unread postby Dr. Harout » Wed Mar 04, 2009 2:49 pm

I'm very much interested in the macro 30/2.8 having a field of view equivalent of a 45mm on FF.
We all know that different length macros have differing use, and on APS-C 30mm would be quite important in my job.
And if the quality is fine enough, then I'm a buyer. :roll:
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Re: New Sony lenses

Unread postby KevinBarrett » Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:33 pm

I think I'd be uncomfortable buying a lens the front element of which is barely larger, if at all, than my sensor.
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Re: New Sony lenses

Unread postby 01af » Wed Mar 04, 2009 4:19 pm

Well ... I have several lenses with front elements smaller than the sensor they're supposed to cast their light beams upon, and I don't feel uncomfortable with those at all. In fact, some of them belong to the finest lenses I own.

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Re: New Sony lenses

Unread postby kingfisher » Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:50 pm

hello everyone

iàm for sure that the new BIG-LENS at PMA is the 500MM F 4,5 SSM G-LENS
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Re: New Sony lenses

Unread postby RobbieA » Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:31 pm

kingfisher wrote:hello everyone

iàm for sure that the new BIG-LENS at PMA is the 500MM F 4,5 SSM G-LENS
greetings
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That would be awesome!!! We really need this for avian photography... keeping my fingers crossed..

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Re: New Sony lenses

Unread postby pakodominguez » Sat Mar 07, 2009 3:03 am

Sonolta wrote:
bfitzgerald wrote:...
Finding those 50mm f1.7's a bit heavy eh?

You are as clueless as the come....NO, I am finding the 50 1.4 TOO EXPENSIVE FOR MANY APS-C USERS...Can you read?

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50mm is a "normal" lens on FF, the only reason people buy the 1.7 is because it's cheap..

WRONGO....many/most buy it for it's LOW LIGHT ABILITY!




Don:
The 50mm f1.7 is a popular lens because is cheap. Period. Same situation with the beercan and other good old lenses that performs quite good on digital, specially on APS sized sensors. Minolta never updated the beercan, and they discontinued the 50mm f1.7 the day they (and everybody else) decided to sell chaepo zoom lenses as kit and not "normal" 50mm anymore.

In other hand, I totally agree with you (and with Sony...): there is a market for APS primes -But I'm not buying there because for me the only path to follow is FF.

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Re: New Sony lenses

Unread postby pakodominguez » Sat Mar 07, 2009 3:23 am

PhotoTraveler wrote:But I will say, I think it has moods. Some days it hasn't done much for me, but sometimes, it just gets on a roll and nails it. It could just be I hit the right FL, aperture for the moment. But it's definitely worked for me.

The ghost in the machine?
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I had been selecting photographs from the last 5 years of my work with joonbug.com and found that, depending on the moods, same combo camara-lens-flash gave me a wide range of results, from focus accuracy to color balance...

I plan to do "promotional material" with this photographs, and probably a webgallery, but I still have alot of work to do :-/

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Re: New Sony lenses

Unread postby KevinBarrett » Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:28 am

I can understand the value in offering a line of light, affordable APS-C primes that might otherwise have been prohibitively expensive or bulky for the average user. However, other makes offer a 50/1.8 for around $100, and all of them cover full frame, as does Minolta's own 50/1.7 in the same price neighborhood. If Sony is attempting to replace the 50/1.7 in so many camera bags, they should make a more compelling reason to go for it other than that it is available "new." If it cost less than $100 with SSM or superior IQ, we'll talk.

The 30mm Macro is baffling. It might have some unique uses, but I doubt it was on anybody's wish-list before the show.

The new kit zoom could be a really good thing, hopefully it can resolve the more demanding sensors well enough to justify its shorter range. If the filter ring doesn't rotate, even better! A bottom-end lens update has been long overdue in Sony's line-up. I'm sure this lens with SSM as well as the 55-200 are to make usable future DSLRs with video capability, but that's already been suggested.
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Re: New Sony lenses

Unread postby pakodominguez » Sat Mar 07, 2009 3:50 pm

KevinBarrett wrote:The 30mm Macro is baffling. It might have some unique uses, but I doubt it was on anybody's wish-list before the show.

When a market is saturated, manufacters' job is to create new demand: think about cell phones: even 10 years ago only 'important people" had them...
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Re: New Sony lenses

Unread postby youpii » Sat Mar 07, 2009 4:59 pm

pakodominguez wrote:When a market is saturated, manufacters' job is to create new demand: think about cell phones: even 10 years ago only 'important people" had them...


Yes but listening to consumers is a basic task that is too often forgotten.
When engineers think they know better, you often get products like the PS3 who is still sold at loss.

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Re: New Sony lenses

Unread postby bfitzgerald » Sat Mar 07, 2009 5:26 pm

Kevin is right.

Nobody is against a kit lens refresh, not a bad idea as it happens. As he pointed out, Canon already sell their 50mm f1.8 FF for not a whole lot, I just doubt sony will match that price. For the puny bit of optical glass they will save, why bother? You might have a case for a longer tele lens..maybe, being DT (if the price reflects some savings), but not shorter focal length primes.

I can't wait to see the price of this new 50mm, it's will make or break it..I doubt it will be £65 though, very much. Same for the 30mm macro..shockingly low price might appeal, if not..well it's not something I have seen much demand for. I bet right now most folks would be more interested in a faster 35mm prime.

And the vasy majority of forum members have not welcomed the new lens line-up, seems Sony has their hand off the pulse of users.


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