Canon G15, G16: Some thoughts on my new camera

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Re: Canon G15: Some thoughts on my new camera

Unread postby classiccameras » Thu May 23, 2013 2:38 pm

I'm impressed with the image quality and Dynamic range. Colours look good as well. Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't this the Canon compact with a 4thirds sensor or there abouts?

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Re: Canon G15: Some thoughts on my new camera

Unread postby David Kilpatrick » Mon May 27, 2013 2:41 pm

The G1X is the APS/smaller sensor (1.7X approx). Tbe G15 is a regular 2/3rds sensor or close to that, but it does perform very well.

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Re: Canon G15: Some thoughts on my new camera

Unread postby classiccameras » Mon May 27, 2013 6:45 pm

Its interesting to note the difference in Jpeg performance of the X10 and X20. Look at DPreviews final summery bar scale between the 2 cameras. The X20 RAW performance soars ahead of the X10, but the X10 maintains a considerable lead in Jpegs rivalling and bettering some DSLR's.
I think I will stay with my X10 as my point and shoot camera, absolutely no justification [for me that is] to change.

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Re: Canon G15: Some thoughts on my new camera

Unread postby bakubo » Tue May 28, 2013 1:52 am

Sorry. Somehow I missed your question. Yes, the G15 does not have a large sensor. I thought my initial post in this thread made that pretty clear, but maybe not. The fast lens plus small sensor was the whole point. :lol: The fast lens really tranforms this camera compared to the G12.

For the last couple of days I have sometimes gone out for a few hours here in Tokyo and only carried the G15. It works pretty well for street stuff. It is fairly responsive, but less so than the E-M5.

I have been shooting exclusively raw for the last 7 years (as long as the camera had a raw mode), but for the last few days I have been shooting jpegs. I have the camera setup like I did pre-2006 when I mostly shot jpegs. I have contrast and sharpening set to the minimum and I have saturation reduced. This makes the jpeg a bit better for post-processing. With the G15 I also turned on the setting to increase dynamic range. I think it is similar to DRO+ on Sony cameras. The intent is not to get a jpeg I like right out of the camera. I just want one that can be post-processed. I am using jpegs mostly for street stuff. For other stuff I would generally use raw. Anyway, I may not stick with this, but a jpeg file is 1/4 to 1/6 the size of a raw so it is nice not to have such big files.

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Re: Canon G15: Some thoughts on my new camera

Unread postby bakubo » Fri May 31, 2013 7:29 am

I have continued to use jpeg mode with the G15 while out and about in Tokyo all week. I haven't downloaded the photos yet so I can't comment on whether for these types of photos I will continue to use jpegs or revert to my normal raw.

I leave for Bali on Sunday and in Bali I will shoot raw on the G15 and, of course, raw on the E-M5 (haven't shot any jpegs with it).

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Re: Canon G15: Some thoughts on my new camera

Unread postby bfitzgerald » Fri May 31, 2013 3:41 pm

classiccameras wrote:Its interesting to note the difference in Jpeg performance of the X10 and X20. Look at DPreviews final summery bar scale between the 2 cameras. The X20 RAW performance soars ahead of the X10, but the X10 maintains a considerable lead in Jpegs rivalling and bettering some DSLR's.
I think I will stay with my X10 as my point and shoot camera, absolutely no justification [for me that is] to change.



At the moment I would agree, though Fuji might release a firmware update to turn down the NR on the X20 jpegs. I like the output from the Fuji's have to say, the Canon also looks good too. Both the G15 and X20 are a bit pricey right now though.
I'd be more likely to go with Fuji overall as I have ambitions at some point to get an X100s, again it's too pricey right now but end of the year or so it might be viable for me. That way I can pick up a compact flash unit and share them between the 2.

At least Fuji and Canon (to a lesser degree) have got the OVF appeal. Nikon dumped it, Panasonic and Ricoh completely missed it so did Olympus. No OVF = not interested.

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Re: Canon G15: Some thoughts on my new camera

Unread postby classiccameras » Tue Jun 04, 2013 4:44 pm

As I said earlier, I have a Fuji X10 which is basically my holiday camera. However, like Barry I like the Fuji out put to the point that I have some yearning for the X-E1 as a cheaper option to the X100s and I can also change lenses. If the price comes down by the end of the year, one of my DSLR kits will have to go, probably the D5100.

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Re: Canon G15: Some thoughts on my new camera

Unread postby bakubo » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:35 am

Here are a few recent ones in Tokyo taken as jpegs per my earlier post. I think I will stick with raw though since I appreciate the extra quality I get with it.

Little children going to kindergarten in the morning, Tokyo:

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Ochanomizu, Tokyo:

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Jumping off the bus in the rain, Tokyo:

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Re: Canon G15: Some thoughts on my new camera

Unread postby Birma » Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:24 pm

Love those Tokyo shots Henry. Great people and surroundings. The little 'crocodile' (does that translate?) of kids is great. The first school here has a "walking bus" which works on a similar basis. In the river shot I like the way the buildings nearest the waters edge are all completely over-shadowed by the buildings behind them :shock: .
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Re: Canon G15: Some thoughts on my new camera

Unread postby bakubo » Thu Jun 27, 2013 1:44 am

Birma wrote:Love those Tokyo shots Henry. Great people and surroundings. The little 'crocodile' (does that translate?) of kids is great. The first school here has a "walking bus" which works on a similar basis. In the river shot I like the way the buildings nearest the waters edge are all completely over-shadowed by the buildings behind them :shock: .


Thanks. Tokyo is such a great place for photography.

The little children usually walk like that holding hands and in a line with a teacher at the front and back. Sometimes little children are wheeled around in carts too. Here is a photo from last year:

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Re: Canon G15: Some thoughts on my new camera

Unread postby Birma » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:34 am

Hehe - I should think that makes is much easier to move a group of toddlers around :)
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Re: Canon G15: Some thoughts on my new camera

Unread postby bakubo » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:31 pm

Birma wrote:Hehe - I should think that makes is much easier to move a group of toddlers around :)


You said it!

Since I got back from Bali awhile back it has been rice planting season in Japan. Around here they flooded the rice fields and have been planting rice. On a couple of walks I took a few photos of the rice fields with the E-M5, but this thread is for the G15 so here are 3 from yesterday with it.

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It is tsuyu (rainy seaseon) in Japan now, but mostly there hasn't been a lot of rain. That changed a few days ago and we had 3 days of pretty steady rain. Got up early yesterday morning and the rain had stopped so at 6:00 AM I went out for a walk. This was still rain covered though.

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Onions hanging under the eaves of a house.

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Re: Canon G15: Some thoughts on my new camera

Unread postby bakubo » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:56 pm

The U.S. price has really jumped for the G15 since I started this thread. My recollection is that the Amazon price was about $429 then. By the way, here in Japan the price is now about $350 -- I paid $385 for mine about 2.5 months ago.

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Re: Canon G15: Some thoughts on my new camera

Unread postby Birma » Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:44 am

I like the food growing shots :)

Rice fields are very photogenic with all of the graphic lines. I like the rain soaked leaves as well. We are just entering our rainy season here in the UK. It's called the summer :( .
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Re: Canon G15: Some thoughts on my new camera

Unread postby bakubo » Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:38 am

bakubo wrote:The U.S. price has really jumped for the G15 since I started this thread. My recollection is that the Amazon price was about $429 then. By the way, here in Japan the price is now about $350 -- I paid $385 for mine about 2.5 months ago.


Oops. I forgot to mention that I noticed on Amazon in the U.S. today that the G15 is now up to $499. Same at B&H, Adorama, etc.


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