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iphone 6 with larger sensor, IS, and PDAF

Unread postby bakubo » Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:05 am

http://connect.dpreview.com/post/4231583673/apple-announces-iphone-6-and-6-plus

New iphone has a larger sensor, IS, and PDAF. No doubt fewer and fewer people will bother with anything other than the camera in their phone. Probably a zoom lens will be next.

I don't have a smartphone, but they are everywhere. They are what most people use to take photos these days and I expect that will be even more true in the future.

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Unread postby peterottaway » Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:19 am

I don't own a smart phone either, just have no real reason. But even handling a 4 inch phone was to me a little large for comfort. These newer larger phones are to me handbag phones - so are we going to see a revival of manbags ?

To be fair the iPhone 6 would probably just about be OK in a couple of pairs of cargo pants I own. A lot of tailored suits and tight jeans are going to take a battering

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Unread postby mikeriach » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:59 pm

We had the eldest son and his family up on holiday and all they do is take snaps on their phones. I took a selection of shots on my A77. The difference in quality at pixel level is quite marked however for web use (Facebook etc) they don't need any better. When they want a nice photo print for the wall, they have to come to me for one of mine as theirs are not good enough :)
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Re: iphone 6 with larger sensor, IS, and PDAF

Unread postby Dusty » Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:42 pm

mikeriach wrote:We had the eldest son and his family up on holiday and all they do is take snaps on their phones. I took a selection of shots on my A77. The difference in quality at pixel level is quite marked however for web use (Facebook etc) they don't need any better. When they want a nice photo print for the wall, they have to come to me for one of mine as theirs are not good enough :)


Mike, in a nutshell you spelled out what's happening today. Photography - real photography, like that requiring a DSLR, - is not dead, but neither is it on the rise as we once thought.

People who are serious about photos, whether for advertizing, art, personal enjoyment, whatever, are still using high end tools to take photos of good quality.

What we photographers fail to see is that the rest of the world aren't taking photos, their taking snapshots. No, no photo snapshots, but 'snapshots' of time to record and share their memories with others. While this has always been done to some extent - the vacation photos - in the new connected world everyone wants to immediately share their life with everyone else. (Obviously, we have too much free time on our hands!)

Until the rise of the adequate quality camera-phone, this role was fulfilled by the DSLR, bridge camera, or compact, and we (photographers, in the traditional sense) thought we were seeing a real rise in peoples interest in photography. We weren't, we were seeing a rise in the interest to mass communicate to the world the cute things our, children, dogs, cats, neighbors, etc., did today, that we used to do by talking about it on the phone or at a coffee klatch. And, also to preserve, like the vacation photos, a visual record of what we had done or places we had seen. There's not the real interest in photography for the sake of photography, but that digital photography makes it easy to do what they never could before.

We of course have reaped the benefits of it for a while, and will continue to do so on some level. Sensor development for one. In the past, people were willing to pay big money to buy a bridge camera of a good compact to take these snaps, but now it's integrate into the all-purpose devise that we call a smart phone. So much so of a multipurpose device that I wonder if the next iteration of Star Trek won't have to combine the Tri-corder with the Communicator!

As people transition from 'real' cameras to phone cams, the cost of DSLRs and accessories will increase as demand decreases, and the Golden Era of Digital Photography slowly fades away.

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Re: iphone 6 with larger sensor, IS, and PDAF

Unread postby bakubo » Wed Oct 01, 2014 9:45 am

bakubo wrote:New iphone has a larger sensor, IS, and PDAF. No doubt fewer and fewer people will bother with anything other than the camera in their phone. Probably a zoom lens will be next.


DynaOptics wants to bring zoom lenses to smartphones

http://connect.dpreview.com/post/5476624082/dynaoptics-wants-to-bring-zoom-lenses-to-smartphones

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Re: iphone 6 with larger sensor, IS, and PDAF

Unread postby bfitzgerald » Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:17 pm

I've bought cameras for less than an iPhone 6 ;-)
I like gadgets but I personally would not spend that much on a phone I know some people get them for much less on a contract, still I don't disagree for many a smartphone is fine for taking casual shots. I did step in once to take a photo when someone could not get an acceptable shot from an iPhone (I had the X10 Fuji with me) the subject was backlit and the phone didn't cut it.

I'm with Dusty in that photography is what is used to be a more specialised interest for a smaller group what happens at the low end budget sector doesn't really concern me that much. I've used plenty of cameras an honestly don't really feel a smart phone is suited for my needs as a replacement camera anyway. Most people are not that interested in the creative/technical side of photography so an iPhone does them just fine

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Re: iphone 6 with larger sensor, IS, and PDAF

Unread postby bakubo » Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:09 pm

Do you remember the Minolta Dimage X1? It was very thin and had a zoom lens that didn't extend. It had what they called folded optics:

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/X1/X1A.HTM

I am sort of surprised that someone hasn't already put a zoom lens in a smartphone. I am still in the 20th century and don't have a smartphone yet. :lol:

The thing about the cost of a smartphone is that people usually don't spend that much money just to use the camera function so comparing the cost of a smartphone to a dedicated camera doesn't make much sense, I think. :)


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