Future of A mount

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Re: Future of A mount

Unread postby Evildogsofdoom » Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:31 pm

Dusty wrote:
bakubo wrote:I am not sure what you are getting at. Can you elaborate?


Henry,
you started this thread by saying that there were a lot of A mount lenses out there, and the also talking about sharing components.

Maybe I read you wrong, but my reply is based on thinking that electronic components and design R&D can probably be shared between the mounts - you shouldn't need a whole new CPU just because the same/very similar sensor is in different bodies, even if one is E mount and one A. Granted, having electronic aperture instead may mean a different output signal goes to the lens, but in reality it's probably going from the CPU to a secondary component that's doing the actual activating. Likewise focus sensors could be shared, as well as other components.

The problem with the lens design, however, is that E mount lenses, with their very short flange distance, are more like rangefinder lenses that traditional SLR lenses in design. DK had a whole section on this somewhere that I'm too lazy to find! :oops:

Sony is a big, rich, company, but like all companies they want to keep costs down and make profits. If A mount becomes unprofitable, it will go bye-bye!

Dusty


For me the success of the E-mount, improves the chances of the A-mount staying alive. As cameras become increasingly electronic, both ranges of cameras can share the main (and expensive to develop) components. The A99ii and A7Rii(i) can /do/ will share sensors, shutters assemblies, Bionz processors, EVF, TFT screens, possibly the IBIS mechanism. The R&D costs of the A99ii were probably pretty small as it uses a mixture of present and future E-mount components and can probably make a profit on fairly small sales.

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Re: Future of A mount

Unread postby bakubo » Sat Apr 22, 2017 10:11 pm

bakubo wrote:Some have said the A77II has been discontinued. If so maybe a new one is on the way. But, either way, it doesn't mean the A mount is dead, I think.


I think the people who were saying several months ago that the A77II was discontinued may have been wrong. I still see them in stores in Japan.

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Re: Future of A mount

Unread postby bakubo » Sat Apr 22, 2017 10:12 pm

Sony has also come out with the A99II a few months ago.

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Unread postby peterottaway » Sat Apr 22, 2017 11:33 pm

And looking at the Sony Australia website as well as some of the local dealers it's still on back order.

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Re: Future of A mount

Unread postby bakubo » Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:56 am

I was in a store here in Hiroshima this morning and they had the A77II for sale. I see it at pretty much all the camera stores in Japan. It certainly doesn't appear to be discontinued yet. I am not even sure what discontinued means with regards to a camera. Don't they usually build a big batch and then over a long period of time sell them? Maybe if they sell a ton more than they expect they have to put it back in production. Sony still sells the A77II on their website:

http://www.sony.jp/ichigan/products/ILCA-77M2/

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Unread postby peterottaway » Tue Apr 25, 2017 10:18 am

Sorry I was referring to the A99 II.

But if they are having problems supplying the high end cameras then I think this would put back the release of the A77 III or the rumoured A88 24MB version of the A99 II.

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Re: Future of A mount

Unread postby bakubo » Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:53 am

I played around for a few minutes with an A99II at a store in Hiroshima today.

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Re: Future of A mount

Unread postby CHOLLY » Thu Apr 27, 2017 2:21 pm

bakubo wrote:I played around for a few minutes with an A99II at a store in Hiroshima today.


Well don't leave us hanging.... what did you think? :?:

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Re: Future of A mount

Unread postby bakubo » Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:50 pm

In an earlier post peterottaway said the A99II was still on backorder in Australia so I just wanted to mention that they are available here in Japan. Anyway, it certainly seems like a very nice camera. Although I still have my A700, A100, and 10 or more A-mount lenses packed away in storage in the States (none of them are high end lenses though) I have been enamored with the m4/3 compromise of small size/weight with good quality for the last 5 years. Works well for how I photograph. If I was still shooting with A-mount though then the A99II would certainly be something I would desire. Desire, but almost surely not buy though since I don't see spending that much for a body. It is overkill (speed, etc.) for me. :)

A99II price is about 384,000 yen. Here it is at Yodobashi:

http://www.yodobashi.com/%E3%82%BD%E3%83%8B%E3%83%BC-SONY-ILCA-99M2-%CE%B199II-%E3%82%A2%E3%83%AB%E3%83%95%E3%82%A199II-%E3%83%9C%E3%83%87%E3%82%A3-35mm%E3%83%95%E3%83%AB%E3%82%B5%E3%82%A4%E3%82%BA/pd/100000001003281716/

I didn't have an A99 right next to it to compare to, but is the A99II a bit smaller? The one at the store had the Sony 28-75mm f2.8 mounted on it and I didn't bother mounting any other lenses.

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Re: Future of A mount

Unread postby CHOLLY » Fri Apr 28, 2017 1:14 am

7 or 10% smaller as the A99II uses the A77 body...

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Re: Future of A mount

Unread postby peterottaway » Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:41 am

I'm not in the market for the A99 II as the A7r and A7r II are more than enough. But in the future I would like to add a A99 style A mount FF digital camera to my collection to supplement my A68 and my three film model 7 cameras.

Three may see excessive but I have added two extra bodies out of Japan at about USD 175 each to my original one that I purchased years ago. I can't see any company adding a new film camera to their product range so I'm just somewhat future proofing myself.

I am surprised that by now Sony has not covered the market for the A99 II more completely. Yes it would appear that Sony did not adequately estimate the demand, and they simply can't pick up the phone and say to their suppliers we need 5 times what we ordered and can we have it next week.

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Re: Future of A mount

Unread postby CHOLLY » Fri Apr 28, 2017 1:50 pm

Earthquake damage set them way back....


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