bakubo wrote: bakubo wrote:
It is getting rather confusing with Barry replying to this thread in a different thread so I will copy his comments about this thread into this thread.
bfitzgerald wrote:There are consequences for ILC cameras with adaptors for other lenses.
Sony have not resisted this as the thread says, Fuji also actually put a few videos on youtube encouraging people to use adaptors (X system)
Samsung have not really embraced the idea at all though.
The good news is yes you can use older lenses (MD mount seem popular on the Fuji X's though you can get an adaptor for A mount manual aperture control though)
My question is this, if I buy an ILC and start using adaptors then it's not very likely that I'd be buying many of the makers native lenses. So long term it's questionable if this is profitable for the company which might mean they charge more for bodies.
Well, I did buy the NEX5 and used only Minolta MD/MC for a while, until I start buying Sony AF lenses... Because manual focus is fine, but AF is better, and new lenses, even the less expensive ones, are better suited for digital.
I still use MC/MD lenses if I'm looking for that look, but In general, I use my AF lenses.
Of course, this only applies to enthusiast or Pro photographers, consumers don't want to bother with adapters and manual focus (or reading user's manuals)
bakubo wrote: bfitzgerald wrote:
Henry it's time to visit your optician soon
I speak for all lenses in a general sense, but you cannot assume in any way that makers will support AF with adaptors there is no evidence at all for this.
And most likely it will never happen for many reasons.
What is amazing is that anyone would think a maker would embrace/allow AF with other makers lenses on their own mount. Did anyone do business classes at school? Naive assumptions about mirror less have been the problem since day one. If there was money to be made reverse engineering adaptors to do AF and aperture control (fairly pointless just having AF on it's own) on ILC models it most likely would have been done
Did it not strike anyone out there that maybe your average Canon EOS users wants to actually use their lenses mostly on Canon EOS products, and not on micro 4/3, NEX or X mounts?
Because it was pretty damn obvious to me
I haven't go to business school either. I think Sony have their reasons to "open" the mount -for now. That give them time to develop a lens offer.
In the meanwhile, the Canon community is not happy with the new Canon cameras, and look with envy what's happening on the Sony technology camp. Canon can change chips on their next lens generation in order to make those Metabone & Co. adapters useless, but all those existing Canon lenses out there will keep working on E-mount + $100 adapters. I think Sony made a dent with the A7 series -I don't mean they are selling massive amount of ILCE cameras. But, for a change, they are driving the trend now.
bfitzgerald wrote:I read the thread in depth. You are suggesting adaptors with "full functionality" that means AF and aperture control I assume.
My reply is as above "not going to happen" by all means keep dreaming, but it's not viable for a number of reasons. And even if it were then it would have been done already.
A few obvious reasons why
Cost of making adaptors, Canon have electronic aperture control everyone else is mechanical. The Sony adaptor you mention is expensive (nearly as much as a budget SLT body)
It seems that from what I am reading there is now an adapter that can be used with the A7rII that allows PDAF with Canon EF lenses and aperture control. I suspect this sort of thing will get better over time. Sounds good to me![/quote]
With the A7; A7II; A7R and A7S and Metabones or similar adapters, you can AF Canon lenses, but slowly and not necessarily accurate. I believe there are similar adapters for Contax (as Barry said, another all electronic lens system) lenses. And that's it. Probably some Nikon AF-G or AF-S will, one day, get their adapter, apparently not enough market for that yet...