Canon ILC due soon.

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Re: Canon ILC due soon.

Unread postby alphaomega » Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:17 pm

I got an email from WEX photographic today inviting me to place a pre order for £769 with a kit lens.
Half the argument for these types of cameras was a more affordable price, yet they are more expensive than DSLR's.

Barry, I purchased a NEX-5N body new the other day for £350 and awaiting £50 back from Sony. £769 is ridiculous even with a kit lens. Mind you as it is based on the 650D sensor it's a "bargain" compared with Jessop's £800 price for 650D with kit lens. Sarc/off

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Re: Canon ILC due soon.

Unread postby InTheSky » Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:12 pm

I think we should thanks Canon for bringing at least competition for the same kind of camera and body. Samsung was there but not enough strong to force Sony to adjust some firmware mistake and add better feature to the camera line up.

I this can bring some more small lenses or a faster zoom one.

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Re: Canon ILC due soon.

Unread postby Dr. Harout » Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:32 pm

I tried to find the register distance... anyone? :?
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Re: Canon ILC due soon.

Unread postby Lonnie Utah » Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:35 pm

Dr. Harout wrote:I tried to find the register distance... anyone? :?


18mm, same as the NEX.

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Re: Canon ILC due soon.

Unread postby Dr. Harout » Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:04 pm

Lonnie Utah wrote:
Dr. Harout wrote:I tried to find the register distance... anyone? :?


18mm, same as the NEX.


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Re: Canon ILC due soon.

Unread postby pakodominguez » Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:25 pm

InTheSky wrote:I think we should thanks Canon for bringing at least competition for the same kind of camera and body. Samsung was there but not enough strong to force Sony to adjust some firmware mistake and add better feature to the camera line up.

I this can bring some more small lenses or a faster zoom one.

Frank

I don't think anyone (specially Canonistes) ever imagine such a boring camera...
http://www.eoshd.com/content/8578/canon ... f-m-system

We'll need a new model in order to bring some stimulus to the competition. The Nikon 1 at least
was innovative with the new AF system, but the 1 inches sensor size, was a mistake IMHO.
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Re: Canon ILC due soon.

Unread postby InTheSky » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:32 pm

pakodominguez wrote:
InTheSky wrote:I think we should thanks Canon for bringing at least competition for the same kind of camera and body. Samsung was there but not enough strong to force Sony to adjust some firmware mistake and add better feature to the camera line up.

I this can bring some more small lenses or a faster zoom one.

Frank

I don't think anyone (specially Canonistes) ever imagine such a boring camera...
http://www.eoshd.com/content/8578/canon ... f-m-system

We'll need a new model in order to bring some stimulus to the competition. The Nikon 1 at least
was innovative with the new AF system, but the 1 inches sensor size, was a mistake IMHO.



Aoutch ... This is not a beautiful reply to a canon launch on a "technically" pro canon user website ...

I think canon will sell a good number of this camera for the people sticking to the brand and inspiring to be able to reuse their current canon lens investment. I think the only think now to really kill this camera is if Metabone will be buy by Sony and they will sell the adapter for 150$. Because the adapter make you almost feel you are using a Sony NEX lens in front for the camera except that you don't have a the manual focus (but this is the only thing not working so far). But ... one of my friend who live almost just for Canon just bought yesterday a RX100 and he was writing on Facebook that he cannot believe so far how good the camera is ... and probably he already (like some Canon user) spend the budget for the EOS-M.

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Re: Canon ILC due soon.

Unread postby KevinBarrett » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:48 pm

One thing is for sure, they got their pancake lens right; 35mm equivalent at f/2 is so much more useful, right out of the box, than Sony's 16/2.8, and only a tick slower than Sony's uber-premium 35mm equivalent, the 24/1.8. Admittedly, Sony's pancake has a pair of WA adapters for a decent price, but that's more investment.
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Re: Canon ILC due soon.

Unread postby David Kilpatrick » Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:32 pm

Well, that's an individual opinion. I never had the slightest interest in a 35mm f/2 when I used full frame and didn't even want the 65mm lens Fuji RF camera, had to get the 45mm lens one. My most used and useful lens was always the 24mm and I'd say Sony's 16mm f/2.8 was absolutely perfect as the launch pancake.

In the meantime, Canon with 1.6X sensor is left with a 29-88mm kit zoom (equivalent) and a 35mm f/2 and no real wide-angle option at all. Anyone who thinks the RX100 lacks a wide angle 'end' will think the same about this launch.

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Re: Canon ILC due soon.

Unread postby Vidgamer » Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:59 am

I think the 35mm equiv. lens is a good choice, and matches a popular focal length from the past. But I have to say, I got the 16mm and have had a lot of fun with it. I think David is on to something, that Sony really made a clever choice providing 1) a wide angle that doesn't overlap the kit lens and 2) provides decent quality in a range that hasn't been covered as much or that well. Combined with the adapters, it's an inexpensive way to get into ultra wide lenses.

In the past I would have said, if I had to have just one focal length, it would be 35mm FF equiv. (24mm on the Nex), but I have used the 16mm (24mm equiv.) as the sole lens on a few outings, and have been pretty happy with it, even with the corner softness and CA issues.


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