Why it's time to move away from Lightroom

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Re: Why it's time to move away from Lightroom

Unread postby bakubo » Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:27 am

I saw this posted today.

darktable 2.6.0rc0 released

https://www.darktable.org/2018/12/darktable-260rc0-released/

This is labeled as release candidate 0 so more will be coming until the final 2.6.0. It says there is an updated manual coming too.

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Re: Why it's time to move away from Lightroom

Unread postby bakubo » Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:11 am

darktable 2.6.0 was just released:

https://www.darktable.org/2018/12/darktable-26/

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Re: Why it's time to move away from Lightroom

Unread postby bfitzgerald » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:03 pm

I tried the newer version of Darktable and whilst it runs better it's still off the mark for me the UI is not working for a workflow perspective. They added more geeky features which doesn't interest me. Whilst I'll keep an eye on it, to me it's not even close to being a LR replacement, unless it gets a complete overhaul.

I also tried Luminar 3 which is a disaster runs like a dog even on a fast pc, missing full exif readout from images and it's catalogue takes an age to build up - another has potential if they spent as much time on development as they seem to ads/marketing it might have been worth considering.

Slightly updated version of Lightzone came out it reads some of my lossy DNG files, but not all, seems to run worse than older version was a minor update development is snail like slow on this

Raw Therapee not tried the latest one it's still missing key things I need like spot healing so I've not bothered to look at it

On1 is one that I will be trying out soon on trial so far nothing has really come close to LR for me but I keep looking. The sad thing is I don't need super fancy features or tons of options (ie Darktable) a clean UI good speed and some basic stuff like spot healing, exif information, support for lossy DNG, watermark on export that's it bar the usual dev tools you expect for raw. Looks like the Nerd brigade has taken over open source software sadly!

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Re: Why it's time to move away from Lightroom

Unread postby bakubo » Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:28 am

I agree about darktable. They have all the stuff in it and way more, but the UI could use a bit of work and mainly they need to start using names and controls that make sense to photographers. Too much technical stuff exposed and too many confusing ways to accomplish the same thing. As I said before, darktable seems to mostly be a place to implement all kinds of computer science imaging processing algorithms to try out. Since it is open source someone who has the expertise and motivation could take the code and create better naming for many of the things, hide lots of the esoteric stuff in an advanced mode, choose better defaults, etc. to make it easier to use.

I also am still using LR Classic CC. Currently on 8.1

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Re: Why it's time to move away from Lightroom

Unread postby bakubo » Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:25 am

I have the latest LR Classic CC 8.1 now. I have never used the face detection (People) function after all these years of using LR. I decided to give it a try so I let it start scanning through my 105k catalog. It has been going full tilt for 76 hours and it says it has done 82%. All 4 cores of my i7 are very busy running at Turbo Boost speed (4 physical cores, 8 logical cores). LR isn't using a lot of memory, consistently about 1.2-1.5gb during the last 76 hours. Here are some specs:

i7-3630qm (2.4ghz, Turbo Burst 3.4ghz)
256gb ssd (Win10, LR catalog and previews)
1tb hd (photos)
8gb ram

I didn't realized it would take this long. I have already seen lots of false positives and negatives. I sort of regret even starting it since it may turn out to be close to worthless.

Have you tried it?

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Re: Why it's time to move away from Lightroom

Unread postby ValeryD » Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:11 pm

I didn't try LR 8.1. What can you say about the editing speed? It's same like v. 7.* or better?
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Re: Why it's time to move away from Lightroom

Unread postby bakubo » Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:23 am

bakubo wrote:I have the latest LR Classic CC 8.1 now. I have never used the face detection (People) function after all these years of using LR. I decided to give it a try so I let it start scanning through my 105k catalog. It has been going full tilt for 76 hours and it says it has done 82%. All 4 cores of my i7 are very busy running at Turbo Boost speed (4 physical cores, 8 logical cores). LR isn't using a lot of memory, consistently about 1.2-1.5gb during the last 76 hours. Here are some specs:

i7-3630qm (2.4ghz, Turbo Burst 3.4ghz)
256gb ssd (Win10, LR catalog and previews)
1tb hd (photos)
8gb ram

I didn't realized it would take this long. I have already seen lots of false positives and negatives. I sort of regret even starting it since it may turn out to be close to worthless.


It finished. Took 95 hours in total. Now I need to go through thousands of the ones it found that are false positives and negatives. Jeez, why did I even start this? :) I saved a catalog from before starting it. I might just go back to it. I need to decide if all this effort actually produced anything of any use.


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