classiccameras wrote:I'm still wondering why there are no more 3rd party m/4/3 lenses, Sigma, Tamron and the others must think there is still a market for their lenses in cropped and FF but as you say they are really no longer a budget option.
bakubo wrote:classiccameras wrote:I'm still wondering why there are no more 3rd party m/4/3 lenses, Sigma, Tamron and the others must think there is still a market for their lenses in cropped and FF but as you say they are really no longer a budget option.
m4/3 3rd party lens makers:
Sigma
Tamron
Voigtländer
Samyang
Rokinon
Kowa
Kodak
Tokina
Venus Optics
Kamlan
Zonlai
Opteka
Meyer Optik Goerlitz
SLR Magic
YI
Lensbaby
Zhongyi
Yasuhara
Jackar
Holga
Zeiss
Handevision
A useful website with a list (not sure if it is complete though):
http://hazeghi.org/mft-lenses.html
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
bakubo wrote:bakubo wrote:classiccameras wrote:I'm still wondering why there are no more 3rd party m/4/3 lenses, Sigma, Tamron and the others must think there is still a market for their lenses in cropped and FF but as you say they are really no longer a budget option.
m4/3 3rd party lens makers:
Sigma
Tamron
Voigtländer
Samyang
Rokinon
Kowa
Kodak
Tokina
Venus Optics
Kamlan
Zonlai
Opteka
Meyer Optik Goerlitz
SLR Magic
YI
Lensbaby
Zhongyi
Yasuhara
Jackar
Holga
Zeiss
Handevision
A useful website with a list (not sure if it is complete though):
http://hazeghi.org/mft-lenses.html
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
Also, there are AF adaptors from Metabones and Viltrox which allow Canon AF lenses to be used with AF. Some are just adapters and some are focal length reducing/aperture speed increasing adaptors.
https://www.metabones.com/products/?c=micro-43-system-2
pakodominguez wrote:classiccameras wrote:I think Sony have scored an own goal with the E mount system, the market is shrinking for E mount because of cost...
The market is shrinking. Period. Canon and Nikon are not doing better.
Cellphones are "good enough" for what most people need.
More resolution is always good, but 61 MP is not "that thing" that will make people buy a new camera.
I don;t know what "that thing" is. Apparently the manufacturers don't know either.
Dusty wrote:Some of what's missing on the DSLRs that's included in all the phones is GPS and wireless connectivity. Most models are making you pay extra for that, via some kludge module you have to hang on to your camera body. Why?
If I can marry a phone module into the body of my DSLR, I can do what my wife does - take a good pic, and instantly share it to everyone. Actually, I can take a great pic, since I have so much more control over it, and do the same. Or I can take a pic, run it thru an online app that puts bunny ears, etc on everyone, and post that. Not all pics are always serious!
Dusty wrote:Early digital couldn't compete with film, but I had a few cheap models so that I didn't have to scan photos and load them to the web. Of course, even though the internet was becoming a thing - I used to run a dial in BBS, if anyone remembers them - it was slow, we were working with bad graphics cards and monitors that only gave us a flavor of reality, and it was all on the desktop.
When the internet became, fast, vast, portable and ubiquitous, the world changed. Then we had MySpace, then Facebook, Pinterest and a host of other things so that everyone wanted to put pictures of everything they did - "OMG! I just ate the worlds best bagel at Barry's Bagel Barn! Here's a pic." - instantly online.
TMI for me, but some people's life is so boring that it's all they have to be relevant.
DSLRs leave us out of that world. I don't want to post everything I do right away - especially if I'm shooting a wedding, but some things I do. Some things are important to post right away for various reasons, like immediate relevancy, advertising, information, etc. Today's phones give us that, today's DSLRs leave us behind. Today's DSLRS give us such great quality, today's phone cameras aren't too far behind. In fact, I'd venture to say that they are a lot better than the first DSLRs that were out there, in a lot handier physical format.
My wife recently went on a trip and complained that her iCloud was nearly full. She had 200 GB of photos and videos from the last 3 years. A lot were stuff she no longer wanted, but 3/4 of them are keepers for her. The point is - photography for the masses has changed, the reasons for it, the need for speed to post, the need to tweak for crazy fun, etc, and DSLRs of today don't allow us to do what much cheaper phones and tablets do, so that market can't meet the needs of the consumers, and will shrink until they allow us to do it all .
/rant off
Dusty
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