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Re: RX10 looks interesting

Unread postby Dr. Harout » Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:40 pm

agorabasta wrote:...So, if I'm to buy a new Sony body, that must be the A7r ...

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Re: RX10 looks interesting

Unread postby alphaomega » Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:15 am

There is an interesting RX10 comment on
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/new-sony ... ers-tests/

Chandler: “I found some really interesting video quality tests featuring the a7, a7r, RX10, and the 7D:
Part 1 – Noise in Video Mode (a7r, RX10, 7D): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnXYhXPvXeo
Part 2 – Dynamic Range/Noise (a7, a7r): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cch1LJxP634
Part 3 – Underexpose > bringing it back in post (a7, a7r, RX10, 7D): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5zYH7YhRW8
Part 4 – Moire and Image Detail (a7, a7r, RX10, 7D): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zEQlGd0FC8
Part 5 – Video Autofocus (a7, a7r): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmj17IFjyT4
On personal note, I am utterly shocked at the quality of the RX10 footage. It clearly surpasses the a7r and a7 not only in the image detail/moire test but matches it on the noise front and holds detail in the blacks better! Whatever Sony did to get that full-read-out of the 1″ chip on the RX10 is amazing, and I hope they find a way to implement that feature on APS-C/Super 35mm sensors in the near future!”

I would say that a fixed F2.8 lens with range 24-200mm (35mm equivalent) is probably ideal for 95% of video so contrary to what has been said about costs, this could be a handy tool for those looking for a single unit to do quality video as well as images. I must say that I was impressed by the few times I have used my RX100 for handheld video clips.

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Re: RX10 looks interesting

Unread postby bakubo » Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:43 am

bakubo wrote:The RX10 has the same 20mp sensor as the RX100 II that is well thought of and it has an equivalent 24-200mm f2.8 Zeiss lens. Having a package that includes the equivalent of a 24-70mm f2.8 and 70-200mm f2.8 makes the $1200 price easier to take. I have read that the zoom-by-wire is very poor because turning the zoom ring causes the focal length to change very slowly. Maybe that can be fixed in firmware? Still, this looks to be a very interesting camera. It isn't very small, but I can imagine that for some people this could be enticing. More dof, of course, than FF or APS-C, but that isn't a big deal for everyone.


This is some good info and thoughts about the RX10 from an owner:

http://visualsciencelab.blogspot.com/2014/01/getting-comfortable-with-sony-rx10.html

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Re: RX10 looks interesting

Unread postby bfitzgerald » Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:32 am

Could be of interest to video shooters, not sure it's positioned to really appeal to most stills shooters.
1" sensors nothing wrong with them said some time ago a good format size for compacts and bridge cameras. But there is no getting away from the price. In an era where the camera market is under quite a lot of pressure, I think it's quite inappropriate to charge prices like that for a smaller sensor.

Add £200 odd and you have an A7 body. I'm not ILC fan, but has to be said if you're dumping £1000 odd down might as well go the whole hog and do it properly

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Re: RX10 looks interesting

Unread postby bakubo » Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:39 pm

Yeah, I don't know nor care much about the business aspects of these huge multinational corporations. I have no idea whether the RX10 will sell well or not. I doubt if it will affect my life one way or the other. :lol:

This is a pretty good video review that also shows images in LR and sample video. One video sample is of his very cute little girl and another shows all the snow on his car there in NY. The only thing that I wished he had included is showing the speed of the electronic zoom control. Missed a good opportunity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki38E57TSng

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Re: RX10 looks interesting

Unread postby Birma » Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:26 pm

Kirk seems impressed with the RX10 as does DK in the latest Camera Craft. DK points out the epic size the lens would be on a full frame camera. Seems a pretty good solution for an all-in-one.
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Re: RX10 looks interesting

Unread postby bakubo » Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:14 pm

I found this new RX10 article interesting. Real use for theater shooting.

http://visualsciencelab.blogspot.com/2014/01/my-theatrical-test-of-sony-rx10-and.html

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Re: RX10 looks interesting

Unread postby Birma » Thu Jan 30, 2014 7:33 pm

Yeah - Kirk seems smitten :) but then again he does seem to regularly fall for new cameras.
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Re: RX10 looks interesting

Unread postby bakubo » Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:14 pm

Birma wrote:Yeah - Kirk seems smitten :) but then again he does seem to regularly fall for new cameras.


Yeah, he does. :lol: My recollection is that in recent months this is what he pontificated on:

Liked: Sony A99, Sony RX10, Panasonic GH3, Panasonic G6, Pentax K-01, Samsung NX300, Olympus E-M1, Fuji X-T1
Disliked: Sony A7/7r, Nikon Df

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Re: RX10 looks interesting

Unread postby bfitzgerald » Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:26 pm

I see the RX10 is down to £850 seems the £1000 odd price tag just wasn't going to rub. (I suspect £850 isn't going to work either)

Anyway I see the X-S1 is on a blow out deal on amazon uk, now for £239 you can't argue with that, it's a nice enough camera for bigger zoom folks.
I know you can't really compare it to the RX-10, but still bigger zoom folks are just not going to pay £850 most of them won't. They will gladly pay £239 though

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Re: RX10 looks interesting

Unread postby bakubo » Wed Mar 05, 2014 2:10 am

bfitzgerald wrote:I see the RX10 is down to £850 seems the £1000 odd price tag just wasn't going to rub. (I suspect £850 isn't going to work either)


Still $1,300 in the U.S. It will probably come down later though.

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Re: RX10 looks interesting

Unread postby bakubo » Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:06 pm

For those who are interested this RX10 review just got published:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sony-cybershot-dsc-rx10

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Re: RX10 looks interesting

Unread postby classiccameras » Sat Mar 22, 2014 2:49 pm

Its a good review for a high end bridge camera and it puts it right at the top, but it looks like Sony have still not fully nailed the Jpeg issues. Price needs to be under £600 to get my interest.

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Re: RX10 looks interesting

Unread postby bfitzgerald » Sat Mar 22, 2014 4:53 pm

I would tend to agree, another point I really like the mechanical zoom on the XS-1, I think it's far better than any electronic control I've used on bridge cameras
It was obvious to get a good review on DPR, I can see encouragement for this type of camera (most superzooms have tiny sensors and massive zoom ranges some up to 1200mm equivalent) so nice to see something a bit more restrained focal length wise.

But the price can't be overlooked, not really
I noticed some vine reviews on amazon, that means Sony are giving some away for review


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