pakodominguez wrote:Hi Henry,
printing on the digital era is always a challenge (i always share this post on color management: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/27922167)
pakodominguez wrote:Do you have a high resolution PDF of the original design to share, so I can give you a better opinion?
The dots you see at close up is the result of the printing technique (digital press). If you want something smoother, you have to find a service that prints inkjet or photo paper.
pakodominguez wrote:Files were sRGB or Grayscale? The cover was probably printed on 4 colors, that's why the extra contrast and the blue cast. The pages were probably printed on black only, that give you a neutral BW -but the ink is transparent: the color of the paper will affect the final image. HP is now offering gray ink for BW (indigo digital press) and the result is stunning, but I don't know who is offering this on the photo book world.
pakodominguez wrote:Adoramapix have a sale now on photobooks, use coupon code PXSAVE60 expires 3/22 (shipping international is flat rate, 29$ I believe...) -if you take advantage of the offer, PM me with the order #.
Birma wrote:I can see why you are disappointed Henry
bakubo wrote:For others who may be contemplating making a Blurb B&W book here is more info. I read this before I made mine:
How to Prepare Black and White Images for Blurb
http://www.blurb.com/guides/color_management/prep_bw_booksmart
bakubo wrote:Birma wrote:I can see why you are disappointed Henry
I am posting this for a couple of reasons. It might be good info for someone thinking about making or buying a Blurb B&W book. Also, I am hoping that someone might know of anything that would significantly change the result. Pako has suggested reading the post he linked to and I am reading that.
As I told you before, an Indigo press can deliver a better quality than the one you got. I don't know who is offering the gray ink. If we finally got it, it will be for special projects only, at least at the beginning.bakubo wrote:My gut feeling is that with some effort the result might be slightly better, but the limitations of B&W printing with the Indigo printers is the main issue. The new ink Pako mentions though might make a big difference. I will have to check more about that.
AdoramaPix accept PDF for photobooks only if you have a Pro account (...) but you can re-export your book from LR as JPGs spreads and put it together using the on-line tool (flash-based, you don't need to install anything)bakubo wrote: After I have more time to deal with this maybe I will try to print the pdf using the Adorama service to see how it turns out. In a few days though I will no longer have an address to ship stuff to though and also will not want to carry stuff around like a book while we are traveling.
Yep. We are all fully digital now, but a print is still the best way to archive and/or showcase a photograph IMHObakubo wrote:Years ago when I shot film and whenever I made a trip back to see my parents my mother always wanted to see some of my photos. Back then I would sometimes set up the slide projector or more often just show her a photo album of prints. Well, as the years went on and I started shooting digital she almost never got to see my photos even though she wanted to. I would put them on my website and she didn't use a computer and had no internet service at her house. Once or twice I brought my laptop over and showed her some photos and I always planned to make prints and an album after traveling, but my wife and I are nomads these days and would only be around for a few days so it just never got done. She passed away last year. I now wish that I had gone to the trouble to make albums for her or even some of these books. Anyway, that is what initially motivated me to work on this first one last year, but it is not the only reason. Too late for my mother though.![]()
bakubo wrote:By the way, this is about someone's photo book with a close-up of a B&W photo. They mention Blurb, but used another service to print. Probably the same Indigo printer though.
http://www.peterscottdavison.com/artifact-uprising-hardcover-photo-book-review/
bakubo wrote:Here is the photo as it was sent to Blurb (except this one is only 800 pixels on the long side). I would appreciate people's input as to what you see looking at it on your computer and comparing it to the book cover photo and the photo inside the book that I already posted. Pako, you may have insight into this. Thank you.
pakodominguez wrote:This (the email you got) are photo books printed on photo paper (silver halide) -the same product we have been offering for 5 or 6 years already. The best quality you can get for photo books.
pakodominguez wrote:We are technically capable of printing book on digital press (Indigo) and to print them on black ink only (so, no color cast, unless the paper itself have a color) but there is no commercial offer yet. We have been working on two offers, one for soft covers books (you can print only one copy, mostly for consumers) and a second offer for self publishing, where you can order a small edition (25; 50; 100 copies). On the second offer we will be able to print black only and probably offer special finish, like spot coating and fine art substrates. This is a project for next year and it will depend on what binding system we adopt for this product.
bakubo wrote:pakodominguez wrote:This (the email you got) are photo books printed on photo paper (silver halide) -the same product we have been offering for 5 or 6 years already. The best quality you can get for photo books.
Okay, that sounds really good. I uploaded the PDF for the book I made with Blurb to Adorama and discovered that it would cost over $150 each though.
bakubo wrote:pakodominguez wrote:We are technically capable of printing book on digital press (Indigo) and to print them on black ink only (so, no color cast, unless the paper itself have a color) but there is no commercial offer yet. We have been working on two offers, one for soft covers books (you can print only one copy, mostly for consumers) and a second offer for self publishing, where you can order a small edition (25; 50; 100 copies). On the second offer we will be able to print black only and probably offer special finish, like spot coating and fine art substrates. This is a project for next year and it will depend on what binding system we adopt for this product.
I hope that comes to fruition. Actually, I didn't realize that Adorama photo books were done using more than one process: photo paper or Indigo printer. On the website I only see one way to make a photo book and, I suppose, it is the photo paper type you mention:
http://www.adoramapix.com
I didn't see a way to specify the Indigo printer. How does one do that? I would like to check the price.
Thanks for the info!
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