August 23 press release

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Re: August 23 press release

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David Kilpatrick wrote:Maybe one of them and that will be the limit, probably the A55.
Read the specs carefully, including the menus. There is one thing about these cameras that was very nice to see for me :-)

Not surprised that readers are getting bored with the flood from Sony.

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Re: August 23 press release

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It's always nice to see 'release w/o lens' included...
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WaltKnapp wrote:
Birma wrote: What it is to be spoiled for choice ;) .
Just look at all the a7xx :evil: !

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Sorry Walt. In all of the excitement I was forgetting the demand for the A700 replacement :oops: . I have sort of mentally put the next 7 series body quite a way down the line for myself. Let's hope that we see the A7xx at Photokina in September. I wonder if there will be more than one model? Sony certainly seem to like this muliple release approach.
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Very unlikely a multi range model series for the A7xx unless they want to use the same type of design and EVF, which I don't think will be suitable for the type of users it will appeal to.
Shame Sony cannot issue FW updates to allow a lens release lock on current and previous models..well they can but obviously they are not bothered about it.
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David. Do you have any comments onthe ghosting subject thats been brought up? is this mirrio in the patch causing that?

I was trying to guess at the geomery of this but I can't see how the ghosted image could be so close to the proper image. if the light travels straight through the mirror then some is redirected by the first surface through the thickness of the mirror, won't that light continue to travel at 90° to the first surface it passes through and wind up in the bottom of the mirrorbox somewhere instead of on the sensor?
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Re: August 23 press release

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The ghosting samples shown are exactly what would be expected from a slightly angled thin glass. Test it yourself, set up a pinpoint source, place a clear filter at 30 to 45 degrees in front of your lens, and observe the faint ghost of the point source.

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Seems like if you have to go to 200% to see them and even then they are pretty minor that it isn't much of a problem. We'll see.
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It looks too me as though it's not as bad as I thought, it might not be an issue in general photography where the sensitivity of the sensor matches the majority of exposure of the scene, then the sensor just can't 'see' the reflections because they are too dim to register.
When there is a vast difference in exposure value like a bright light in a dim scene then the reflection of the light is a lot brighter than the majority of the the exposure value in the scene, and with the sensor sensitivity cranked up, the sensor can then 'see' them....it's probably no biggie anyway for general night scenes, except for car headlights maybe, where every car would most likely have multiple headlights. But the camera would not be much use in Astrophotography, where you want it reproduce things accurately.
Otoh getting back to what it's intended to do, the camera does have impressive AF/AE response realtime in the video I saw taken with it, very fast, sharp and accurate, almost no visible ghosting or rolling shutter problems in dimmish light....I was impressed anyway.
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well it's not a problemif it's fully understood then it can be worked around if necessary or ignored
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There's a discussion about some Taiwanese user's A33 samples - http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read. ... e=36136140 - those seem to show absolutely no ghosting whatsoever.

Could it be that DPR once again got a pre-production copy to review? :lol:

But then again, the ghosting in the DPR samples could as well come from the lens/filter they used...
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I saw the samples. No problems at all !

Now, looking at the new Canon 60D, a55 looks even better than before. :)
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The 60d is getting slaughtered over on the Canon forums...most users highly critical of it.
And to be honest I can see why.
Re-positioning is a mistake for Canon this range is hugely important for their current users.
£1000+ for a plastic body slower fps body is not going to go down well at all.

A huge miss by Canon on this..and expect massive discounts on the RRP as well.

I think Nikon will be the one to watch shortly (and Pentax possibly)
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This link - http://www.sonydslr.com.tw/alpha/viewto ... =9&t=41258 - has 100% crops of night shots with strong speculars.

Ghosting nowhere to be seen. EXIF says SLT-A33.
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Just got in an e-mail from Warehouse Express offering a new D60 at pre-order price of £1099.00 so I can understand Barry Fitzgerald's comments above. Looks expensive for what it is. W.E. are also offering the A55 body only at £699.00 including Free Sony NP-FW50 Rechargeable Battery Pack and SanDisk 4GB Extreme 30MB/Sec SDHC Card worth £88.98. Looks like a better deal, but only independent testing will show if the Sony 16Mp sensor is as good as the Canon 18Mp when uprated to same image size.
Thom has a long spiel about all the assumed new Nikon sensors so it will indeed be interesting to see how these compare with the latest Sony 14 and 16Mp APS-C sensors and processors at various ISO levels. Funny that the new Nikon APS-C sensors are also 14 and 16Mp. Thom is even speculating about a Nikon 38Mp FF sensor in a D4x. I wonder if the suggestion that Nikon are more heavily involved in the design but ultimately Sony do the fab is near the truth.???????
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It is true Canon put out some absolutely ridiculous RRP on new DSLR models..they do themselves no good at all with that mentality.
I know a good few Canon users and my email box was filled up with comments, the nicest ones were "zzzzzzz/yawn" and the worse were using a tone and colour than no forum would tolerate.

I'm just looking at a Canon 60d at a lower price (£800+ ish) and it still might have a hard time v a new D90/D5000
I think Canon messed up here..xxD series is bread and butter stuff for the company and hugely popular to enthusiasts and semi pros. I don't like Canon much but they are good cameras.

Back to the Sony EVF jobs..so how do we change AF points on these? I see the AF button I assume it's another "menu dive"??
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