Which one do you prefer?

bossel · Unread post by **bossel** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 6:35 pm

With or without gull?

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1096/316 ... 6e8a_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1393/316 ... 25d3_o.jpg

Btw these are two different photos, I didn't just clone out the gull in the first one.
Sony 18-250 @ 150mm, F8, CPL

jbtaylor · Unread post by **jbtaylor** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 7:20 pm

Without.
The gull is not sharp and does not help the balance of the other objects.

Birma · Unread post by **Birma** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 7:40 pm

Another vote for "without the gull". It just doesn't seem to fit with the moon and plane in this shot, but I do like the idea of the three things "in flight".

Dr. Harout · Unread post by **Dr. Harout** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 7:43 pm

Both.

Hawk · Unread post by **Hawk** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 8:24 pm

One more for "without". The one "with" doesn't work for me.

MFS · Unread post by **MFS** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:29 am

Whitout the Gull. Bird distracts make's a unbalanced Comp.

Winston · Unread post by **Winston** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:59 am

The problem is that the gull is flying out of the picture.

MFS · Unread post by **MFS** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 2:06 am

Winston wrote:The problem is that the gull is flying out of the picture.

That's very true. Coming in usually looks better.

bossel · Unread post by **bossel** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:31 am

Thanks for all the comments - I'd say the winner is the pic without the gull. That one was actually an accident

the gull wasn't supposed to fly into the picture just when I pressed the trigger. But try to explain them!

01af · Unread post by **01af** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:16 am

I like it better with the gull. I don't feel it's unbalanced ... to the contrary, the gull and airplane heading into different directions make it work for me. Great shot!

That said, the picture without gull is nice, too. I am trying to get a shot exactly like that for years now, but no success yet. I guess my telephoto lens shys the planes away.

-- Olaf

RobbieA · Unread post by **RobbieA** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:28 pm

Without the gull certainly gets my vote! it seems to show that it doesnt belong there!!

[SiC] · Unread post by **[SiC]** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:14 pm

Without!

jcoffin · Unread post by **jcoffin** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:56 am

bossel wrote:With or without gull?

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1096/316 ... 6e8a_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1393/316 ... 25d3_o.jpg

Btw these are two different photos, I didn't just clone out the gull in the first one.
Sony 18-250 @ 150mm, F8, CPL

Another option to consider would be modifying the picture a bit, moving the gull to where it might work better:

Of course, this is only reasonable as long as the picture is treated essentially like a painting: an attractive composition rather than a literal or accurate representation of reality. I'd also add a disclaimer that I'm not sure this is really the "right" place for the gull, nor am I convinced that it's necessarily a positive element at all -- just presenting the possibility of a third option for consideration.

Javelin · Unread post by **Javelin** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:01 am

actually I like that one a lot with the moved gull. I guess the flying out of the frame has a lot of impact and I think you picked the perfect place for him to go...

01af · Unread post by **01af** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:34 am

jcoffin wrote:Another option to consider would be modifying the picture a bit, moving the gull to where it might work better: [Image]

No, definitely not! This re-composed image does not work at all; instead, it now looks like an arbitrary collection of unconnected items. The original composition works just fine; I am surprised that I am obviously the only one who likes it ...

-- Olaf

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