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Wasp (I think) eating Bee

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:43 am
by stevecim
Hi All

was on the way to mow what little lawn I have when I saw this wasp? on a down pipe
a350 Tam 70-300 (in macro mode) 300mm 1/125 f8 iso100 flash used
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180mm 1/640 f5.6 iso200
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180mm 1/320 f8 iso200
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Cheers, Stephen

Re: Wasp (I think) eating Bee

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:52 am
by stevecim
I think it's a robber fly not a waps :)

Re: Wasp (I think) eating Bee

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:49 am
by Tony Meredith
Nice shots Steve, it's definitely a Robber Fly. They belong to the family Asilidae, there are some 640 or so described species. They are active predators and very strong fliers, often taking their prey on the wing.

Re: Wasp (I think) eating Bee

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:58 am
by stevecim
yer I was just reading up on them, is't the NET great, if they where any bigger I would have to get the 12 gauge out :)

Re: Wasp (I think) eating Bee

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:19 pm
by Greg Beetham
That second shot is a class act, yes a Robber fly, I've seen them often around here as well, I've always sortof thought they were related to dragon-flys, but maybe not as Robber-fly's fold the wings back and dragon-flys don't, maybe it's more of a lacewing type of critter.
Greg

Re: Wasp (I think) eating Bee

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:06 pm
by Tony Meredith
Robber Flies belong to the order Diptera, which includes all the true flies (like the common house fly) and mosquitoes. One of the most distinguishing features of this order is the absence of the second pair of wings, which are replaced by small club like appendages called halteres. Lacewings and Dragonflies belong to the orders Neuroptera and Odonata respectively, neither of these are closely related to the flies.

Re: Wasp (I think) eating Bee

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:28 am
by stevecim
Hi Tony

can you put a name to this

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was taken with a Pana FZ10, don't tell anyone it's was not shot with a Sony :) :)

Re: Wasp (I think) eating Bee

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:28 am
by Tony Meredith
My best guess from this photo is that it's some kind of cicada. The small antennae, small beady eyes and sucking mouth parts (rostrum) are characteristic of the cicadas. I've never seen one with the unusual red protrusion at the end of the abdomen though. What a beauty!

Re: Wasp (I think) eating Bee

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:00 am
by stevecim
Thanks Tony, myfirst thoughts where Cicada has well, at first I thought it was injured but it seemed to well formed for an injury.

Re: Wasp (I think) eating Bee

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:27 am
by Dr. Harout
stevecim wrote:can you put a name to this
I can: Insectus australiensis cum tailicus erythematisatus :D

Re: Wasp (I think) eating Bee

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:57 am
by Tony Meredith
Dr. Harout wrote:
stevecim wrote:can you put a name to this
I can: Insectus australiensis cum tailicus erythematisatus :D
Nice one Doc :) , but rather than a terminal erythematosus I'd say it's an aposematic defense mechanism.

Re: Wasp (I think) eating Bee

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:45 am
by Dr. Harout
Tony Meredith wrote:Nice one Doc :) , but rather than a terminal erythematosus I'd say it's an aposematic defense mechanism.
Then it should read: cum terminus erythemicus (or butticus redicus :lol: )
BTW, I'm eagerly waiting for the microscope shots.