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Re: 70300G First play

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deanr1968 wrote:Hi neil

I've just chucked the 70300g on my A700 and pointed it out the window at 300mm ISO200 f5.6. No squirrells in my garden but I think the linked jpeg (converted from RAW in LR2) shows some fine detail. If you zoom in you'll be able to make out strands of cobwebs.

http://www.therobertsonhouse.co.uk/image/DSC01366.jpg

Hope this is of some help comparing your issue with other similar configs

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Thankyou very much, I've been lurking around a while and decided I finally had something to contribut. I hope to contribute more in the future


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David Kilpatrick wrote:
ellisn wrote:One thing I did notice was the seal on the box
Looks like the lens has already done a round trip - DK
Ellisn, I am no expert, far from, but I was wondering: Have you compared any other lenses on your camera? Could it be a sensor FF/BF problem?

DK is sure to know if there are clues in the photo to detect lens fault from camera fault.
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Dr. Harout wrote: Brian, long time no see. Welcome back. :D
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The tape is where they do spot checks to ensure all contents are present! They are going to replace it once I send it back. I will take a copy of the serial first though.

Definitely a problem this 100% crop was taken at 1/1000 ss

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I took a few and they were all as soft.

I assume this following 100% crop is OK taken with the 1680z. Just want to make sure it is the lens and not the camera?

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Focus on the biggest.

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Neil

What focal length, ISO f-stop etc?. It still looks a little soft to me but then I'm no expert.

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Just took a few snaps with the 1680z, all ISO800 8mm f/5.6 Scale then 1005 crop. Sorry about the subject mater.

I do hope it isn't the camera as that has past it's 7 days so it will mean repair and wait.

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I think your camera is OK. :D
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yes it looks very sharp
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Dr. Harout wrote:I think your camera is OK. :D
Phew, Venice without a camera would have really made me :evil:
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I wish I hadn't sold the 350 now, makes me see the point of having a backup.
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Sonolta wrote:Camera JPG KM5D + Sigma 70-300 APO DG Macro Fully Extended and Wide Open (ISO 400 1/250 f5.6 @ 300mm Hand Held almost straight off the camera).

-Sonolta
Very nice. Unfortunately the Siggy 70-300 "took a dump" on me and now I'm stuck with the non APO DG version :cry:
Most of the time it performs ok but the CA can be disturbing...

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Sorry David I missed the post regarding file format.

They were all cRAW. Is there a chance it is still user error and not the lens. There are so many settings I could well have messed something up.

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ellisn wrote:Sorry David I missed the post regarding file format.

They were all cRAW. Is there a chance it is still user error and not the lens. There are so many settings I could well have messed something up.

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Your final shots at 1/1000th indicate that something probably is amiss with the lens. But, you do need experience in using AF systems to assess problems, and a lot of your tests prove nothing except that it's extremely difficult to get sharp pictures at 300mm, with a slow shutter speed and high ISO, of a small furry animal. I would not have judged on these, but the test of the lettering on white shows (at least to me) that the lens is performing under par - unless you have a big fingerprint on it.

For example with the squirrel shots, if you were shooting through a window, that would be enough to destroy the sharpness of the lens. End of story. You need a filter-quality window to shoot through at 300mm and domestic glass, however clean, can spoil wide aperture shots. Old windows are worst (modern glass is often pretty good). Many people do try to shoot garden birds etc through large plate windows, including double or triple glazing, and they get noticeably unsharp pictures compared to those who shoot from an outdoor position with nothing between the lens and the subject.

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Thanks David

No they were all shot in the garden, nothing between the lens and the fur ball. No filters. Agree lack of experiance doesn't help but I need to find out befre the 7 days are up so I can get a straight swap.

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