Super-35mm camcorder

[David Kilpatrick]

The sensor in this could just be of great interest, or could simply be the existing 16 megapixel equipped with cooling and full frame (not HD cropped) output.



http://www.photoclubalpha.com/2010/11/1 ... camcorder/

A photoclubalpha T-shirt goes to the first person providing the URL of any website claiming that this a full-frame 35mm camcorder, and that NEX was always good for full-frame, bla bla! It's bound to happen.

David

[pakodominguez]

I'm not an expert, but "35mm" in the movie industry is not really 'half frame"?

[agorabasta]

The sensor shown in that pic seems to be of a perfectly square shape... Good if true.

P.S. That would allow the current 16:9 1.8 crop that Nex uses for the video to rotate freely inside that square area. It would imply a possibility to have an automatic horizon correction and/or a full electronic compensation for both rotation and shift for video. It also means a 21MP square sensor at the Nex rez, or some x1.5 or x2.0 higher pixel count if simple binning is still used for video output as it is with Nex.

[David Kilpatrick]

Super-35mm is 25mm x 18.5mm (full half frame, or correctly, 35mm motion picture's original size).

The sensor isn't square, I am sure, as that would have no value for 35mm-style movie makers. It will be exactly what they say - Super-35mm - or it will simply be an APS-C sensor being used for full frame video output instead of HD.

The Nikon D7000 sensor is said to have 16 x 24mm instead of a smaller area, or has been in some tech docs. 18 x 24mm is different and my guess is that it will a new sensor, but still within the circle of coverage for the 18-200mm E series zoom. See my comments on the blog page.

David

[agorabasta]

Upon closer look at that picture, it's definitely not a square sensor; you're quite right here, and I should stop dreaming. Still it seems considerably larger than the 18.5x25mm diagonal ~30mm; it's more like 40mm if that pic is anything representative...

And an oversized sensor would be very useful for the video kinds of image stabilisation - you can move the crop mask instead of moving the sensor. It may become useful for the stills too once the sensors get capable of about 250fps readout speed. Sony is currently at 120fps readout speeds with large sensors - that's more than twice faster than it was just a year ago.

[pakodominguez]

A photoclubalpha T-shirt goes to the first person providing the URL of any website claiming that this a full-frame 35mm camcorder, and that NEX was always good for full-frame, bla bla! It's bound to happen.

http://www.quesabesde.com/noticias/sony ... -35,4_6985
"A diferencia de la reciente NEX-VG10 -también con montura E-, la nueva videocámara estará equipada con un sensor de imagen de tamaño Super 35, es decir, un captor con las mismas dimensiones y proporciones que el que utilizan las cámaras de cine de la compañía, como la F35 o la SRW-9000PL.
Aunque con una superficie similar a la que ofrecen los sensores APS-C, estos captores Super 35 son de formato panorámico, es decir que tienen una relación de aspecto acorde con los estándares de la industria cinematográfica. "

Brief: sensor has the same size as the Sony F35 or SRW-9000PL, APS-C size sensor but panoramic. No FF. No T-shirt...

[David Kilpatrick]

It does actually look as if the sensor is a normal format ratio, not panoramic in itself. Super-35 has panoramic subformat sets. These will probably be implemented (all the available formats, or one) along with 'traditional movie' 35mm shape. I can easily see art film makers wanting the squarer format - people always want to use what is not the common thing.

David

[douglasf13]

Yeah, this sensor should be similar in size to APS-C, but a slightly wider aspect ratio. If it has the same sensor as the new F3, it would be awesome. That thing has a 12 micron pixel pitch!