LR5 v. LR4 - anyone tried the new version?

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bakubo wrote:
bakubo wrote:This update says they are working on some bugs (has a list) for the LR 5 update. Fortunately, it says they are working on the one in particular that I was concerned with:

http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal ... ssues.html

As mentioned here, a bug was introduced in Lightroom 5.0 where files exported at less than 1/3 of their original size may not retain Output Sharpening and Noise Reduction settings. We are working on a solution and will include it in our next update.
I upgraded to LR 5 in November. I got the full LR 5 (not update) online for $69 (free shipping, no tax) on Black Friday. Using LR 5.3 now. I haven't noticed any problems. It seems like it is a bit snappier than LR 4.4 for some things, but nothing dramatic.
However, there are two (at least) significant new tools, the radial filter and the vastly improved cloning tool which now does much more than remove dust.
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LR 6 out soon wonder what else they can cram in there?
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LR 5.6 was released yesterday:

http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal ... lable.html

Bug fixes and lots of new Sony lens profiles, including the 18-250mm. I was always surprised that it had never been profiled before. A long time ago I downloaded a very poor profile using the Adobe Lens Profile Downloader that someone created. The distortion correction in that profile was incorrect though. I hope the official one from Adobe is much better. Since I had already downloaded the user created profile I wonder if I need to do anything to use the new profile in 5.6? Will it get used automatically and the old one will disappear or do I need to do something?
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I have already found a new bug introduced into 5.6. Previously if you have a virtual copy the original will say the filename and the copy will say filename copy. Now in 5.6 both show only the filename.
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bakubo wrote:I have already found a new bug introduced into 5.6. Previously if you have a virtual copy the original will say the filename and the copy will say filename copy. Now in 5.6 both show only the filename.
I rebooted Windows and restarted LR 5.6 and now everything is okay. I can no longer reproduce this so I am happy.
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I am using Lightroom 5.6 on Win8-64. My problem is that I spent lots of time adding several text pages with text to the book I am working on. I switched back to Library mode and later came back to the book module. All was okay. I tried changing the size of the book and, again, all was okay. Then I did a Clear Layout and Auto Layout and the text pages all disappeared! The photo pages were still there though. Are my text pages still somewhere in LR or are they gone forever? Why are my photos still there, but the text pages are gone?

Thank you for any help. By the way, I have read this:

http://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/help/c ... k-lr5.html
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I have been using LR4 and Elements 9 until recently. Saw the Adobe CC offer of LR5 and Photoshop CC at £8.57 a month and could not resist. As LR5 is so good I really do little in PS to RAW images other than checking Auto Tone and a little Shadows/Highlight plus contrast. Find removing dust and blemishes easier in PS compared with LR. As stated above, the Auto Distortion Correction function is great. Makes the groundwork for final manual distortion adjustments. The LR4/Elements 9 combination was good enough by and large but the Cloud combination is definitely better and (in my humble opinion) cost effective. Find using Bridge/Camera Raw/PS a better way of operating with Jpegs. A pain that you cannot browse in Bridge and then open in LR5. Using Faststone Image Viewer for RAW because I can open straight into LR5 from this browser and then into PS. Adobe are sleeping here. Why on earth do they not add LR to the opening options in Bridge?
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Another user of the LR/PS CC option.
I do the vast majority of PP in LR but where I have a plague of dust spots etc I will use PS.
One thing I just cant get to grips with in PS is noise reduction.
I just find LR so simple to use and probably, at best, I'm actually only using 20% of what it can do (I'm poorly self taught!!).
I must take some time to look at the demos.
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One thing I just cant get to grips with in PS is noise reduction.
Mikeriach I gave up on noise reduction in PS a long time ago. I use the luminance slider in either Camera Raw or Lightroom to remove luminance noise and recover any loss of sharpness with the sharpness slider also in Camera Raw or Lightroom. Just above the luminance slider. Typically I wll use the scenic setting in Lightroom for RAW and just a little bit if I work on a Jpeg in either programmes.
As far as colour noise is concerned there is also the color noise slider in LR and CR below luminance slider.
I would always use LR or CR for noise reduction.
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Agreed, PS is a pain in that department but ACR/LR is a dawdle.

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alphaomega wrote:
One thing I just cant get to grips with in PS is noise reduction.
Mikeriach I gave up on noise reduction in PS a long time ago. I use the luminance slider in either Camera Raw or Lightroom to remove luminance noise and recover any loss of sharpness with the sharpness slider also in Camera Raw or Lightroom. Just above the luminance slider. Typically I wll use the scenic setting in Lightroom for RAW and just a little bit if I work on a Jpeg in either programmes.
As far as colour noise is concerned there is also the color noise slider in LR and CR below luminance slider.
I would always use LR or CR for noise reduction.
Of course, sharpening and noise reduction go hand in hand, and the LR Mask slider in the sharpening section can be a noise lifesaver. The mask lets you choose what to sharpen based on edges. If you adjust it correctly, the sharpening algorithm does not attempt to sharpen smooth areas. Sharpening these smooth areas creates noise-like artefacts.
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Has anyone here started using the new Lightroom 6.01? How is it?

This is what Adobe recommends for RAM for LR 6, 5, and 4:

LR 6: 2GB of RAM (4GB recommended)
LR 5: 2GB of RAM (8GB recommended)
LR 4: 2GB of RAM

They are recommending 4gb instead of 8gb now. It isn't common for a new version to use less ram than before. I hope it isn't a typo.
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So far I tried it. It's slow and has too many "bags". I'll wait for update . Something like ver 6.2 or 6.5 :)
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Thanks for the info! What kind of computer are you using? Windows, Mac? CPU, RAM, etc.?
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Hi Henry. I've running LR CC (6) on a 2 year old Mac Mini with 8 Gb RAM. No significant speed difference that I can see between 5 and 6. The move from 4 to 8 Gb produced a significant improvement in the performance of 5. I'd be really surprised if 6 was ok with only 4 Gb.
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