And also keep the rest of my "oldies" witch i love so much....
Beercan on Alpha 900
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Re: Beercan on Alpha 900
And also keep the rest of my "oldies" witch i love so much....
KM 7D 28-135 4-4,5, 35-70 f4, 35-105 f3,5-4,5, 50 f1,7 and 70-210 f4. All Old School 
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Re: Beercan on Alpha 900
Hi Christer and welcome to the forum.Chr_Bra wrote:Now I know for sure that I will keep my can forever,
and start saving for the a900 big time!
And also keep the rest of my "oldies" witch i love so much....
Indeed, it's a good idea to keep those wonderful lenses.
Re: Beercan on Alpha 900
Thanks Dr. Harout I´m pretty far from a a900 yet, but right now the 7D suits me perfect since I´m pretty low on my learningcurveDr. Harout wrote:Hi Christer and welcome to the forum.Chr_Bra wrote:Now I know for sure that I will keep my can forever,
and start saving for the a900 big time!
And also keep the rest of my "oldies" witch i love so much....![]()
Indeed, it's a good idea to keep those wonderful lenses.
KM 7D 28-135 4-4,5, 35-70 f4, 35-105 f3,5-4,5, 50 f1,7 and 70-210 f4. All Old School 
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Re: Beercan on Alpha 900
Thanks Christer and it's from your site that I got your name 
Re: Beercan on Alpha 900
Very sharp indeed.
Why didn't Sony relabel this one (maybe also add SSM)?
Did they loose the blueprints?
Why didn't Sony relabel this one (maybe also add SSM)?
Did they loose the blueprints?
Re: Beercan on Alpha 900
maybe because this lens has been out of production for 10 years ?
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Re: Beercan on Alpha 900
The f4 70-210mm was abandoned before 1990. It had not been made for 16 years when Sony took over. It was a Sakai plant design like all the very first AF models, and was effectively hand-built. Also, it suffers from extreme into the light flare without a deep lenshood to protect it. But I do think they could look at the basic design, rework it, and issue a first-class lens a bit cheaper than the 70-300mm SSM. It was exceptional. Internal zoom and constant aperture!
I should come clean on this and say that I sold my 70-200mm SSM 2.8 and kept the beercan. I know which I preferred on the A900. Not likely to be a popular view.
Just for the ref: I also sold my 200mm Macro f4 APO G. It fetched £1220 on eBay. I was amazed (that was, without box or cards etc - bare lens with a 72mm Minolta UV thrown in). That is about $1900 at current rates. I did not want the lens because it is too heavy to strap-hang. I checked all my lenses by placing my fingertip right into the part where the lens meets the mount, then walking with the lens dangling. The 70-300mm SSM is no problem. The 70-200mm SSM pressures the spring - you can feel it pulling away from the camera. The 200mm Macro does the same. It clearly stresses the mount unless fully supported (held in the hand). I often scramble over stuff, or run with my gear. I have made sure that none of my lenses causes any stress I can feel, to the camera mount. Everything has to be straphangable.
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I should come clean on this and say that I sold my 70-200mm SSM 2.8 and kept the beercan. I know which I preferred on the A900. Not likely to be a popular view.
Just for the ref: I also sold my 200mm Macro f4 APO G. It fetched £1220 on eBay. I was amazed (that was, without box or cards etc - bare lens with a 72mm Minolta UV thrown in). That is about $1900 at current rates. I did not want the lens because it is too heavy to strap-hang. I checked all my lenses by placing my fingertip right into the part where the lens meets the mount, then walking with the lens dangling. The 70-300mm SSM is no problem. The 70-200mm SSM pressures the spring - you can feel it pulling away from the camera. The 200mm Macro does the same. It clearly stresses the mount unless fully supported (held in the hand). I often scramble over stuff, or run with my gear. I have made sure that none of my lenses causes any stress I can feel, to the camera mount. Everything has to be straphangable.
David
Re: Beercan on Alpha 900
Yes, same question for the 50/1.7
It feels like they don't care about the "mid range" market or maybe their factories are already running at max capacity.
The a900 partly targets landscape photographers, too bad 28/2.0 & 35/2.0 are also discontinued.
Do you thing the guys who designed these lenses are still working for Sony?
Canon sells four 70-200:
70-200 2.8L
70-200 2.8L IS
70-200 4L
70-200 4L IS
The sharpest is supposed to be 70-200 4L IS, not the 2.8 one.
I saw some Beercans on taobao (chinese ebay) for about 2500RMB (350$) is that worth it? Tamron's 70-210/2.8 is around 5600RMB (820$) here.
It feels like they don't care about the "mid range" market or maybe their factories are already running at max capacity.
The a900 partly targets landscape photographers, too bad 28/2.0 & 35/2.0 are also discontinued.
Do you thing the guys who designed these lenses are still working for Sony?
Canon sells four 70-200:
70-200 2.8L
70-200 2.8L IS
70-200 4L
70-200 4L IS
The sharpest is supposed to be 70-200 4L IS, not the 2.8 one.
I saw some Beercans on taobao (chinese ebay) for about 2500RMB (350$) is that worth it? Tamron's 70-210/2.8 is around 5600RMB (820$) here.
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Re: Beercan on Alpha 900
I picked up mine for $170 USD but the seller didn't really know what he had, and the a900 was only in concept form and not quite production-ready. Even then the others weren't selling for $300 unless they were mint condition with the original lens hood. They averaged around $250 USD when I got mine in May.
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You should see current eBay prices. There are lenses like old 28-85mms priced up at $400+.
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Oh, I do keep scanning ebay...I wouldn't mind trying a 28-135 on my a700, but more seriously I'm trying to assess the fair price for a 24mm f/2.8 prime. I mostly find myself using the beercan or the 50/1.7 but would love to have a wider, more "normal" prime. My wife already told me I'm not getting one for Christmas,
but I suspect there's a new CPL in my future!
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Re: Beercan on Alpha 900
Unfortunately many US sellers won't ship beyond their borders (the three you quote don't) and even if they can be persuaded the cost of shipping and VAT make it not a cheap lens at all for us poor souls in the UK and EuropeSonolta wrote:28-85's are cheap on US Ebay...David Kilpatrick wrote:You should see current eBay prices. There are lenses like old 28-85mms priced up at $400+.
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Re: Beercan on Alpha 900
There are always cheap ones around, usually old, sometimes in good conditions, sometimes not. But it's more common now to see this kind of thing:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/new-MINOLTA-AF-SO ... 240%3A1318
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-Minolta-Zoom- ... 240%3A1318
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/new-MINOLTA-AF-SO ... 240%3A1318
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-Minolta-Zoom- ... 240%3A1318
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Re: Beercan on Alpha 900
I stopped scanning eBay, just looking very occasionally. Just not worth the time.
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Re: Beercan on Alpha 900
Ho my god ! i have never seen this amount of Ebay link on this forum
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There is some deal again on Ebay for Minolta equipment, but VERY NOT like 2 years ago. Since the Sony market of the A200 - 300 350 ... and A700, i have seen this change incredibly.
For US market, there is some good deal on craigslist.org some time too.
I'm actually selling a 24-105mm D, i have found this lens not good as i expected wide open on the A900. (better using the 28-75D instead of that ... )
Regards,
Frank
There is some deal again on Ebay for Minolta equipment, but VERY NOT like 2 years ago. Since the Sony market of the A200 - 300 350 ... and A700, i have seen this change incredibly.
For US market, there is some good deal on craigslist.org some time too.
I'm actually selling a 24-105mm D, i have found this lens not good as i expected wide open on the A900. (better using the 28-75D instead of that ... )
Regards,
Frank
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