IQ: Canon 5D Mk2 vs. P&S vs. A200, Sony market share at 20%

[A1000]

Sonolta, I think that you are after my good looks.

[A1000]

Thanks. I'm glad you calmed dowmn after being love-struck by my handsome looks. But yes, you are right, Canon is a lot more of an optical company than Sony. But Sony is a lot more of an imaging company than Canon. And Sony is with Ziess, and Zeiss is known for better glass than Canon. While Sony is now beginning to chalenge Canon in DSLR's, Canon can't even chalenge Sony in prosumer video cameras, and prosumer is where Canon stops. Check Mavica and you'll see who lead this digital camera industry on the beginning.

[A1000]

Minolta's digital camera heritage + Sony's digital camera heritage = curent Sony digital camera division. Add to it Sony video division supremacy and you'll get Sony's advantage in the rapid convergence of photo and video technologies.

[A1000]

It's optics and electronics now. Electronics replaced most of mechanical stuff. Optics is something that has been more or less perfected. With enough resources a number of companies can make good optics. The electronic portion gives an edge to a company. That is why Sony, Panasonic, and Samsung will all become major forces in photography, maybe JVC will too join them. Canon is advanced in electronics. Olympus, Pentax, and Nikon are not at all major electronic companies. The first two will be gone sooner or later, probably will follow the K-M lead. Nikon is such a strong brand that I'm sure it will survive.

I see the future DSLR market share as follows:

30% Canon
25% Sony
20% Nikon
15% Panasonic
10% Samsung

[bossel]

A1000 your pic is ugly so I don't belive you anything

[alphaomega]

I think that A1000 is a bit rough around the edges and is a bit "sharper" in his comments that at least I am used to in this Forum. He is also more a Sony than a K-M/Alpha fan boy. His picture has been doctored. Maybe he will reveal if it is to annoy or frighten us or he has some other purpose in mind.

Having said all that about our distinguished newcomer there is something in what he is saying. I also believe that if Sony stay the course they will achieve their objective of becoming No. 2 in DSLRs. I am not so sure about Samsung but they should never be underrated. Oly & Pentax are slowly on their way out for sure as independent companies. Pentax may eventually be swallowed up by Samsung. I think Panasonic are on to something with their G1 and A1000 hinted that Sony may be following with an A50 and APS-C instead of 4/3. If anyone can produce a workable electronic viewfinder surely that would be Sony. Panasonic may take over Oly at some stage. Notwithstanding the squeals in the Nikon Forum Nikon will continue to be dependent on sensors from Sony whatever spin they put on it unless they jump to one of the other electronic giants, but then they will not get FF developments.

My personal gut feeling is that A1000's numbers above will probably be in the ballpark in five years time.
Canon
Sony incorporating K-M.
Nikon
Panasonic incorporating Oly.
Samsung incorporating Pentax and maybe Hoya

Interesting times ahead.

[A1000]

His picture has been doctored. Maybe he will reveal if it is to annoy or frighten us or he has some other purpose in mind.

But you must admit that I have great tripod-style teeth and F.95 fisheyes. The picture is me. I don't know why I have been kicked up and around in school a lot by classmates jealous of my size 60 shoes.

[A1000]

My personal gut feeling is that A1000's numbers above will probably be in the ballpark in five years time.
Canon
Sony incorporating K-M.
Nikon
Panasonic incorporating Oly.
Samsung incorporating Pentax and maybe Hoya

Interesting times ahead.

It'll be no longer optical companies, but electronic ones that will primarily be making cameras. No one would believe it 30 years ago.

What is interesting is that Sony, Panasonic, and Samsung lenses will include 3 German labels - Zeiss, Leica, Schneider, some 50 years after these brands nearly vanished from the camera market.

[picman]

His picture has been doctored. Maybe he will reveal if it is to annoy or frighten us or he has some other purpose in mind.

But you must admit that I have great tripod-style teeth and F.95 fisheyes. The picture is me. I don't know why I have been kicked up and around in school a lot by classmates jealous of my size 60 shoes.

Please change your picture. If you have to have an avatar, OK, but do we really all the time have to look at this ugly thing. It's not even funny.

[alphaomega]

Interesting lead on possible future developments in the DSLR/SLR camera segment. I think there is no doubt that the future partly belongs to the electronics giants such as Sony, Panasonic and Samsung if they still see this sector as potentially profitable and decide to continue investments.

After posting my last insert above I thought about Samsung's latest moves and re-visited this News items in AP

http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/ne ... 72054.html

In that piece of news Samsung confirmed the spin-out of camera operations into Samsung Digital Imaging and their work on the new 'hybrid' interchangeable lens camera system, to rival the new Micro Four Thirds format and a move to launch a FF DSLR. I think they are gambling a bit here with their money considering their current market share in DSLRs.

It could be some fight between the old established players Nik/Can and newcomers Sony, Panasonic and Samsung. I wonder where this would leave Oly, Pentax, Fujifilm and Sigma. I guess Fujifilm are not going to replace their S5. Somebody suggested somewhere that Sigma would be better off concentrating their resources on lens development.

[A1000]

I think that the way things are, if you are not in FF, you are not really considerd to be a camera company. A900 immediately put Sony in that league.