Out of touch - volcano victim

[David Kilpatrick]

Huge difference in the fat content. That's why health food fans buy goat's milk in our local supermarket for twice the price of cow's milk. Feta cheese (whether sheep or goat) is already on the verge of crumbling, and only remains together with the help of olive oil. Most Greek and Turkish cheese is like this, it can be pressed to make it more like a conventional dairy cheese, but it's crumbly to start with.

David

[bakubo]

Huge difference in the fat content. That's why health food fans buy goat's milk in our local supermarket for twice the price of cow's milk.

In the U.S. and Canada you can get whole milk, 2% fat milk, 1% fat milk, and skim milk (0%) and they are all the same price. Have it your way. Don't need to buy goat's milk just to get lower fat content. In Japan, as I recall, there is whole milk and reduced fat milk, I think 1% or 2%.

[David Kilpatrick]

Not just fat, it's bought by lactose intolerant people. Shirley can only have a certain amount of cheese made with cow's milk. We don't actually use any milk at all (which surprises people, who think you can't live with a carton of this stuff in the fridge). Just don't like it. We have exactly the same semi and skimmed choices, but we don't eat cereals, and we drink coffee or tea black. So milk is not really necessary.

At least so far there is no attempt to market sheep milk in cartons. We now have good sheep milk cheeses made locally and they are selling well, but you can't buy the milk. Once, 'milkin the yowes' was the main occupation of girls. Milk came from sheep - cattle were for meat, not milk.

For Greece, Turkey, northern Africa and many Mediterranean places goats not cows are the main source of milk. Many traditional French cheeses are not from dairy milk, but from sheep or goat.

The worst cheese I have ever had - I could not eat it - was the almost black stuff which is made in Iceland and buried in seal skins to mature. I think the dark brown colour and 'embalmed' consistency put me off, it reminded me of the flesh on Danish bog mummies. Someone sent me some as a luxury gift.

David

[bakubo]

The worst cheese I have ever had - I could not eat it - was the almost black stuff which is made in Iceland and buried in seal skins to mature. I think the dark brown colour and 'embalmed' consistency put me off, it reminded me of the flesh on Danish bog mummies. Someone sent me some as a luxury gift.

When I was a child we lived for a couple of years in Casablanca, Morocco. This was 1961-63. I recall one time my father came home with some limburger cheese, I think, and stunk up the whole house. No one except him would get near the stuff and, if memory serves, even he gave up after eating just a bit of it. Wrapped it up and threw it out.

[Greg Beetham]

Sheesh, coffee without milk or raw sugar, that'd be like drinking battery acid...kaf kaf. I've got friends here the same, they don't have any milk in the fridge..ever, they keep a carton of that long life stuff instead, in case of visitors, like me. I have to admit to ignorance of cheese in all of it's forms, I've never been much of a cheese type person, except for the very occasional grated parmesan on spaghetti bolognese, they seem to go together nicely.
Greg

[David Kilpatrick]

Well, I'm drinking Lapsang Souchong tea right now without milk (that would be sacrilege!) or sugar. Wonderful. Like drinking a smouldering wood fire.

David

[Greg Beetham]

Okydoke, Lapsang Souchong tea...gotcha. One should probably observe the Japanese tea ritual as well, t'would seem fitting somehow.
Greg

[roysmith]

Nice tea that Lapsang Souchong, used to drink it a lot. I got used to japanese sencha now, obviously without any sugar! But I like my coffe with lots of cream and lots of sugar, just like Winston Wolfe from Pulp Fiction

[Dusty]

Not just fat, it's bought by lactose intolerant people. Shirley can only have a certain amount of cheese made with cow's milk. We don't actually use any milk at all (which surprises people, who think you can't live with a carton of this stuff in the fridge). Just don't like it. We have exactly the same semi and skimmed choices, but we don't eat cereals, and we drink coffee or tea black. So milk is not really necessary.

David

My parents have had goats for 20+ years, and they always knew someone with a lactose intolerant baby that needed goats milk. Usually they just gave it away. Another interesting thing about goats milk is that you can freeze it. It turns yellow, but back to white when thawed, and there's no bad effects from doing that. Cows milk doesn't like to be frozen.

Dusty